mysteryman said:
ps4tw said:
3 games hardly gives users a choice xD When Nintendo gamers tend to like karters, platformers and basically the stuff Nintendo has been churning out for the last 20 years, there is no competition to that. Also as for project CARS why would anyone play it on the WiiU when it sells itself on this:
"Project CARS is the most authentic, beautiful, intense, and technically-advanced racing game on the planet"
....It's no secret that the WiiU can't hold it's own against the Xbox One or the PS4. So that comes down to the CoD on PS3 point that the console isn't appealing enough for people to purchase it for such a game. The lowest selling MK may have sold well, but hasn't helped the consoles sell has it? And that's what I'm talking about - the fact that a game can sell well on a Nintendo console yet the console can still sell very poorly.
Guess what used to have broad appeal - fur clothing. So that's your point killed. I'm not just talking about MK though and this is something you fail to grasp. I'm talking about the entire Nintendo ecosystem. Their titles may sell better than a lot of other games, yet their consoles do not. Why is this? Because their consoles do not have broad appeal (other than the Wii) due to the titles on offer.
Either way I can't wait to see how you explain MK8's high uptake yet still low WiiU sales when it's back to 40k in 4-6 weeks.
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Keep moving the goal posts, you'll get even better at it the more you practice. As I've said several times now, Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing Transformed is a kart racer. It performed similarly well across Wii U, PS3 and Xbox360 (despite the large difference in install-base) and has had a 1.5 year head-start without Mario Kart for competition (which according to your logic would mean consumers would eat it up like no tomorrow).
As for Project CARS, perhaps because the devs are putting real effort into the Wii U version, and it's the only upcoming sim-racer on the system. But even if we were to entertain your flawed logic, if customers went elsewhere for Project CARS (or any other racer) then that would mean more competition for Mario Kart, which directly condtradicts your other train of thought. Like I said, be consistent with your arguments, they're all over the place.
A game could still have broad appeal despite the system itself not having it. By denying the antecedent, you fail to consider other alternatives to your conclusion. The home consoles versions of Mario Kart have all had a high tie-ratio which suggest that the game could have been a deciding factor in buying the console. The console itself not being attractive enough outside of Mario Kart could account for good MK sales on a lower selling system. Regardless of whether or not that is correct, it doesn't prove a lack of broad appeal.
Fur clothing? What a ridiculous analogy; when was the last time you heard someone scream "Nintendo is murder"? I understand that you are talking about all Nintendo games, which is where your argument breaks down even further, as none of your logic applies to competitor consoles. Please go on about Forza again, it was very entertaining.
Here's a fun thought; how many copies would Mario Kart 8 need to sell to be considered to have broad appeal in your eyes?
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Keep starting your posts with a claim to have spotted a fallacy. The problem is you clearly don't know what your point is.
I'm saying that Nintendo do not have a broad appeal as I'm looking at the entire gaming market, not just one title and it's sales, which is a laughably simplistic way of viewing a complex market.
The Xbox 1 has mass appeal. The PS4 has mass appeal. The WiiU does not, because Nintendo does not have mass appeal.
"OMG BUT X SALES".
Yes, but Nintendo only sell to existing Nintendo fans. They are a small bunch when you consider the large amount of gamers.
Therefore no matter how "well" MK8 sells, it won't save the console and it'll just be SB for GC all over again. It's Mario, and Mario only appeals to Mario fans. On the grand schemes of things, there just aren't enough of them. The issue is you're getting tied down in pointless details rather than stepping back and seeing the big picture. How can Mario have broad appeal when the console with Mario on barely sells?
