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Capulous on 14 May 2014
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mornelithe said:
Capulous said:
mornelithe said:
Capulous said:

I'm talking about them trying to profit from winning the format wars. I don't know what the exact loss per console was; I did read what a few sites projected. Did Sony ever come out and say exactly what their loss was per console sold?

No, but Isuppli does it for them, and for virtually all major electronics.

And most companies, make things, and provide services to make a profit, if you're adverse to such things, why have you ever bought anything?  And if you're going to ding Sony for attempting to profit from the format wars, you should probably include, 20th Century Fox, Dell, Hewlett Packard, Hitachi, LG Electronics, Panasonic Corp, Mitsubishi Electric, Philips, Samsung Electronics, Sharp, TDK and Thomson, since they're all part of the Blu Ray founders group (there's actually more but I can't find the full list).  

I not bashing Sony for trying to profit. I am just presenting counter points to his arguments of Sony and MS. I've said plenty of times that these companies are here to make a profit. I'm not adverse to such things, don't take the discussion so personal.

Uh?  I'm not taking anything personally, I neither work for Sony or Microsoft, and own products from both.  I'm questioning your statements because they're not entirely accurate.  Sony didn't make Blu Ray alone, and doesn't collect all the profits alone.  Sony did not transfer the costs onto the consumer, anymore than Bugatti transfers the costs of the Veyron onto the consumer (as of Sept 2013, they lose 6.2m per car sold). 

It's not personal, it's a fact thing.

So you don't believe Sony put blu-ray on the PS3 to help them win the format wars? You don't believe any of the cost associated with the PS3 came from the decision to include blu-ray? What do other companies have to do with it? Does Sony recieve profits from blu-rays? Yes. What does it matter that they didn't collect profits alone? They still collected profits from it.