Microsoft: F2P/MMO Subs still behind the pay wall

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sully1311 said:

superchunk said:
No shit. Those are games. They always maintained gaming would be behind the wall. Only thing moved up are the entertainment/non-gaming apps. Same as PS4.

Well it's not the same as the PS4 then is it?

You can play F2P and MMO games on PS4 online without PS+? Pretty sure it requires the paywall as well.