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Final-Fan said:
I think that might be the most propaganda-laden account of scientific progress that I've ever read.

I agree that some truly new and interesting discoveries on how the universe works have happened and will continue to happen, many of them thanks to new scientific paradigms that embrace chaotic principles more fully, but I disagree that there was any kind of willing concerted effort to shove this math and science under the rug.

Question: What does that guy mean by "negentropy"? From your interpretation you make it sound like there is actual negative entropy going on, rather than a local (for certain definitions of "local") effect consistent with increased overall entropy.Is that true?? And if so, how big can this negentropic effect be?

1) How is this propaganda?

2) To be honest I'm not completely sure what he was trying to say with negentropy, but my interpretation is that he is saying order is increasing not decreasing, and so negative entropy is happening on a grand scale. And he seems to be indicating this is through the attractors, and that he thinks the strange attractors is evidence of god. Or he is using god as a metaphor for things we don't know.

3) He wasn't saying chaos theory was being swept under the rug but rather people were ignoring it because they thought there were better explinations. look Chaos theroy started around 1900 but really didn't start making major head way until the 60's.

Also Fractals defenitly belong in the title, I don't care how much he mentions them directly they're an underlining part of how we came to know chaos theory. As for god, well maybe I read one to many statements on this site about how only stupid people believe in god or maybe I just wanted some people to responed and thought it would help. Either way it caught your attention, and if its the only reason you read and responded then I'm glad I put it there.



"Back off, man. I'm a scientist."

Your theories are the worst kind of popular tripe, your methods are sloppy, and your conclusions are highly questionable! You are a poor scientist. Especially if you think the moon landing was faked.


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