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You could get a Xbox One, Titanfall, and Forza 5 for $450 for awhile and that included a Kinect and it still didn't push that many more consoles, so it'll be interesting to see how much more this does. It would have been a smart move dropping Kinect but not this long after the systems release. Dropping the Kinect now is just a really bad PR move imo. Another thing that they lost by making a Kinectless version of the Xbox One is that now that every console doesn't have one, devs won't bother making Kinect exclusive software because the market will be split with Kinect owners and non Kinect owners..