| Kasz216 said:
A Hypothisis suggests there isn't any proof. When this is a well documented thing. Which is funny because they spent 50+ years trying to cover the thing up. In regards to your update. I'm confused with your arguement here, since your entire arguement agaisnt Holomodor has been exactly nothing BUT adhomniem attacks. Outside which the food exports are very well document... and this is something you know, and you just kept dodging around the fact the food was removed in a game of semantics of HOW the food was removed.
Which coincidentally is when Ad Hominem reasoning actually IS valid. Additionally, what's said to try and dismiss your arguements. We both already know it's there. Hell, the wikipedia page i provided has exact records. It was to explain why people rarely do bother to argue with you. Because you specifically aren't credible.
If someone like Khan were to make an arguement. That's be worth argueing with, because he'd actually care.
Or hell even someone like Realmafoo, who while often not knowing his facts... actually wants to learn.
As for you, you just like to stir shit up and support stuff you know isn't even true, even in the face of blinding specific evidence. A videotape recording of Stalin saying "Lets starve the Ukranians" likely wouldn't serve as proper proof for you because you'd argue that any timestamp indicators could of been added by the west, or pro west government officials, or that he could of said to do that but the government policy never got put into place.
Again, this isn't meant to invalidate your arguement (it's already been invalidated) this is specifically an invalidation of you specficially as someoen who it's worth argueing with.
I've really humored you more then enough when we both know i'm correct, and you are now staring directly at the cold hard numbers infront of you. (Which you've probably known this entire time.)
I'm sure the next leg of this anyway was just going to be you argueing genocide doesn't fit because it more targeted a specific class, aka the Kulaks then it did Ukranians as a whole... Ukrainians as a whole being more a side casualty. And that Stalin specifically demanded economic classes be left out of the official definition of geneocide. (Always being ironic since that would be the one thing Marx and Lenin would of wanted in there and fought hard to be included.)
Really don't have time for another silly semantic dance.
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Kazs, do you really want me to go through all this opinionated crap and personal attacks? :D For starters I suggest you use line breaks, second "brevity is the soul of wit".
The only thesis I've managed to dig up from this is smth about food export, elaborate it so we actually would have smth to talk about.
UPD: And do not forget to reference sources! If you so damn credbile unlike me :D even though it seems I'm the only one who's providing actual historical documents as of now.
