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superchunk said:
RolStoppable said:

What you and a lot of other Nintendo fans need to grasp is that the Wii could absorb GameCube DNA without its death sentence being signed immediately. It doesn't and can't work vice versa. Therefore it comes down to a simple choice for Nintendo fans: You either support the Wii direction (and secure a future for the games you like) or you desperately try to think of a workaround, so that Nintendo doesn't have to make a Wii. But no matter what, the latter will always result in failure.

That unhealthy love for the Wii U and 3DS makes people believe that there's no space in the market anymore for a Nintendo home console and a Nintendo handheld, but all those two failures mean is that the GameCube DNA will never work. Yes, the 3DS is full of GC DNA, in case you haven't noticed. Nintendo can easily make more home consoles and handhelds, they just have to make sure that the hardware doesn't suck so hard that it drags everything down with it. When you look at Nintendo's updated shipments for Mario Kart 7 and New Super Mario Bros. 2, those two games have barely moved during the last year. This shows that the people who buy the 3DS are those who embrace Nintendo's N64/GC ways, and the only reason why the 3DS doesn't sell as low as the two aforementioned home consoles is that it doesn't face a PS1/PS2. If the 3DS reached the usual Nintendo handheld audience, then its "evergreens" would be actual evergreens.

I already agreed with you in our last big discussion that Nintendo needs a Wii2... a low cost machine with 1st party first.

However, that doesn't negate the point of my thread that the gamepad is a very good controller. Of course its cost of materials ensures Nintendo can't have a low cost machine, but that can be changed over time and/or by splitting that functionality into a portable console that can seamlessly connect to a low cost home console in the hybrid type of device I've casually talked about earlier.

Again, I agree. Nintendo needs to walk away from catering to any 3rd parties or "core" gamers. They need to remain on the low cost, high quality, first party centric path.

isnt that what they essentially did with GC and a lesser extent N64? Those didnt turn out too hot either.