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Kasz216 said:

I'm still trying to figure out what your arguement is in either of these cases at this point. 

My argument is plain obvious, I've stated in the first post on the matter. It's a provocation, red armbands are probably have no connection to either of the groups. The main culprit is the same who's likely behind the mass murders in Kiev this February, Parubiy. He was in Odessa three days before the events btw. This is hardly proves his involvement, but I'm absolutely dead certain about this being a provocation made by officials, not an accident.

Kasz216 said:

Official Grain exports+ the majority of the people dieing being the areas that had their grain taken is pretty damn undeniable when you get down to brass tacks.

There are tons of other policies that can be documented, things that can be drawn out... but the above not sure how you argue with that.  

I'm not sure what you mean by "grain taken", you have to be more specific and terminologically correct, but this doesn't even matter. This is pointless discussion unless you start addressing points I made in responce to Badassbab, there's really many of them, but enough to debunk his "deliberate genocide" suggestion. Otherwise this is exactly "...whole day deconstructing..."