mai said:
Prove it, and explain why certain police officers have the same red armbands? why not single body had red armband? why the man on the pic below wears St.George ribbon and Ukrainian flag at the same time AND red armband.
When did I exactly denied famine of 1932-33, a quote please? I denied the premise of it being delibarate genocide as it referred by propaganda, hence the invented term Holodomor. Wanna talk about it? Go through my points above one by one. Just do not fall flat on your face like Badassbab did. |
A) Not sure what that has to do with whether or not the march troubles had anything to do with the union fires.
As for the picture... there are plenty of reasons he could have an armband+the flag. A trophy, just being dumb, really anything. If your trying to argue some kind of false flag start to the whole thing... don't you think that'd be something they'd make sure was removed?
B) I could, just like I could spend a whole day deconstructing 9/11 conspiracies as bullshit... it's not particularly constructive to break down the dozens of ways the soviets basically caused the famine/made it worse with their incompetant polices then specifically crafted new policies targeted at Ukraine like the blacklist sysem.
Besides which, you already admit the goverment removal of grain from an area with famine. Basic government grain export numbers from the period alone speak for themselves.
Your arguement seems to be that they didn't plan for there to be a famine so it shouldn't be considered a genoicde, which seems a bit off since they used the genoicde to target specific people... as shown by the fact that the majority of people who died during the famine were the people who lived in the area that food grew.
Hell even the soviets knew it. Otherwise, I'm guessing it wouldn't of been classfied up until the 90's.
