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Sharu on 25 April 2014
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Badassbab said:
mai said:
Badassbab said:

1. My point is Russia to this very day is treating Ukraine not like a sovereign nation but a country that it needs to keep under it's control and influence.

And it's a nation? Let alone sovereign? Since when? Actually the last one is not a rhetorical question.

2. a) Under the leadership of Lenin, there was the Russian famine of 1921 that killed millions of Soviet citizens including over a million Ukranians. Granted there were a combination of factors that led to this namely the turmoil after the Great War which Russia lost. So you had a revolution, civil war, class confilct, ethnic divisions etc. Parts of Ukraine was forcibly incorporated into the Russian dominated USSR against the wishes of the Ukranians and the famine happened after this event. b) Holdomor was a Stalin instigated famine. Millions of Ukrainians died. This was a terrible crime against the Ukrainian people.

a) Please explain what kind of logic leads from natural disaster to, I quote, "Ukraine has suffered tremendously under Russian domination". And idioitc one?

b) Proofes of that, please.

3. Britain is not treating Eire or India like colonies that it needs to control and keep under it's sphere of influence for national security reasons....unlike what Russia is doing to Ukraine in the year 2014. Both Eire and India are sovereign independant nations and Britain treats them as such. Both countries are free to trade with who they want and decide how best to deal with national security issues without inteference from Britain. 

That's because Britain is no more, but that's another story, let's leave that for another time.



Yes Ukraine is an independant country but unfortunately just like in the past it's in a tug of geopolitcal war and naturally being the big bully next door neighbour Russia undemines its right to self determination the most.

a)  There was nothing natural about this. Ukraine paid a very heavy price for what should have been a Russian problem because of the Bolsheviks taking their grain away with little to no compensation.

b) The mass murdering racist tyrant Joseph Stalin played a prominent role in the Holodomor genocide and there is scholory debate over whether this was instigated by Stalinists or a bad harvest. My personal view based on what I've read is it's a genocide and Stalin and his allies were responsible for what could have been entirely avoidable. Google is your friend and one can make up their own mind. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_Holodomor#Deliberately_engineered_or_Continuation_of_civil_war

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JAiUcqy3lM&t=14 <<<< Genocide in Ukraine

P.S Britain still exists. There are over 60 million of us.

Tell us please about "The mass murdering racist tyrant" Churchill and a famine in India first.

Also Britain Empire isn't exist anymore. Only some small country on a small island is there and it can fall apart anytime soon. (I mean Scotland)