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Well over 100 posts in to this thread now.......... that alone shows that there clearly is an issue here with regards to the ps4's current line up of games.

With regards to indie games, in 90% of cases they are nothing more than 2-3 hour long and 1-2 day time fillers.

(that's always been my stance on these indie games, even when the 360 was swamped with them last gen, my old posts will back that statement up 100%)

Second son is getting platinumed left, right & centre at an alarmingly fast rate...... why? whether most on here who do favour sony would like to admit it or not, there clearly is a lack of appealing quality lenghty games on the ps4 right now.