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Turkish said:

So much salt. You dont need to parrot what a few people already said a day later. There is no spin, I misremembered and someone corrected me and it was over. The fact that you come a day later with such a salty and bitter response blowing this way out of proportion makes me question your intentions. My advice is to stop bothering, stop being paranoid and go back to being silent on the sidelines, I don't want to waste time on silly internet arguments with random dudes I never previously had interactions with.

Many retailers have a Xbone Titanfall bundle for 449, Titanfall is a game bundled with it costing 60 bucks alone, making the console with Kinect effectively 389.

No salt here, just lulz. Feel free to question my intentions, no one needs to bother questioning yours :)

And a $449 console is $449 no matter what values or subtractions anyone wants to make. Which is why they need a real actual price cut to meet/dip below PS4's price.