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Seece on 18 April 2014
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fleischr said:
Seece said:
bonzobanana said:
Its not just about the games. It's also about the performance of the console and its pricing.

I keep reading on this forum that great games will save wii u. Great games didn't save the Dreamcast.

More than anything though its about decent marketing.

It's about appealing to an audience. That means everything has to play a part. But at the end of the day, they can't appeal to the core or your average gamer because A) no third party support, B) online is lacking compared to competition, C) few core exclusives, D) can't/won't afford to money hat the big stuff, E) underpowered, F) console/company image goes against them.

Casuals ... it's too expensive, it's not fresh and unique like Wii, they're burnt out on the casual stuff (Just Dance, Wii series ect).

WiiU is perfect for some Nintendo fans, but you have a hard case selling it to anyone else.

Casuals have a fairly limited offering on the Wii U. All 8th gen systems have this same problem: they're not offering anything substantially better or different.

Just Dance on the Wii is pretty much the same game as on the Wii U.

NSMB Wii and NSMBU are very hard to tell apart besides graphics.

And beyond that, the LEGO games on PS3/360 are going to be pretty much the same as on next-gen.

There are some flashes of success they've had with casuals in the last year. Wii Party U sold really well in Japan, probably mostly owed to the fact it offered gamepad-centric features that differentiated it from previous Wii party games. SM3DW is the reason Wii U has gained any foothold at all in the US (though WWHD undoubtedly helped too). Beyond that, they have a lot of room for improvement for release timing. Rayman Legends, WWHD, and the Wonderful 101 all released within a week of eachother following a drought.

The fun and flair of MK8 and SSB are really their best chance of turning things around.  Not sure about SSB, but Nintendo is getting their act together with MK8 for the time being. I think we're underestimating how powerful a catalyst it can be. I mean 6 years later, MK Wii is still in the charts. If MK8 drops below, MK Wii in weekly in 2014 I'd be shocked.

Dreamcast never had franchises of such high caliber.

Given Wii sales I highly doubt MK Wii is selling as much as we have, that and it's bundled isn't it?