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I don't understand why people assume that a kinect less sku is the same as dropping kinect. There can be a PRO SKU with Kinect and a CORE SKU without kinect. And kinect can be available separately. It would be the same strategy that worked last generation for the hdd and the wireless controller. It's clear that a $500 price tag is too high for a videogame system. And it doesn't matter how much stuff you put in the box. It's too high for the average buyer income. Frankly X1 is doing better than most (reasonable) people predicted.