Should I get an Xbox One or a PS4?

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lucidium said:

starcraft said:

lucidium said:

starcraft said:

But evening ignoring the (incredibly) tenuous and unknowable assumptions involved with that, it makes no sense from a gaming perspective.  Where there is such a clear preference of games, why not you know, buy the console you'll most enjoy for the next several years - instead of delaying that gratification in the vague hope you might save ~$50 if you're super lucky half a decade from now?

You think the Xbox One is going to still cost $449.99 in 5 years, seriously?
Not even the most ardent of xbox fans are going to agree with you on that one.

No, I imagine if I had said anything like that then they would definitely disagree with me.  Fortunately I did not.

Because for your logic to work, not only would the X1 have to plummet in price between now and five years from now (it will), but the PS4 would have to remain vaguely close to its current price over the same period (it wont).

What exactly are you arguing over, then?

With each passing months sales, the prospect of a new SKU sans kinect at a lower price becomes a much greater possibility, if they run with it, do you think it would still cost more than the PS4?, if not then what you end up with is "in the future, the xbox one will be cheaper than the ps4", which is my point.

I'm not seeing what is so hard to understand about it?, other than MAYBE DR3, the only real reason to own an xbox one right now is titanfall, he already has an xbox 360 and bluepoints port of it is more than good enough if he absolutely has to play it.

You are mising up "maximising material gain for the lowest cost" with "pick x because y sux" mentality.

I really am not mixing up anything, I am prioritising gaming over cost for someone who has explicitely said that cost is not their primary concern.

A few false assumptions on your part.  Microsoft have explicitely said they are not going to unbundle kinect.  Does that mean it will never happen?  No.  But it certainly does not appear immediate.

Your logic is predicated on saving money, but this can only occur in a substantial way if only the X1 sees substantial price cuts.  If it did, the X1 would immediately and dramatically overhaul the PS4 in the United States (the OPs home) and the PS4 would see similar cuts in short order. 

I recognise that you're attempting to maximise material gain for lowest cost, but your arithmetic is flawed.  Material gain for the gamer in question  is clearly greater in an X1 than a PS4.  Therefore, it would take a very substantial cost differential to outweight this, even if money was an issue which he has stated it is not.  But at best, you can point to a small money differential which is then further diluted over a period of several years. I know what your intention is, I am not accusing you of being a fanboy.  I just feel that you're incorrectly applying your own logic.