Do you think that Socialism could ever get a strong foothold in the USA? (read op)

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Kasz216 said:

binary solo said:

NobleTeam360 said:
Yeah their* called Democrats.

*They're

Not today's Democrats. In most other democracies 75% of the Democrats in congress, and Obama himself would be considered right-of-centre.

That people think mandated health insurance is socialism running roughshod on 'Murican freedoms shows how far right the USA as a nation has gone.

 

Not really no.

I mean, have you compaired the US response to the GFC compaired to the Europeon one?

If your talking more then just economically, I can list about a dozen ways the UK, Germany or France for example are socially conservative compaired to the US mainstream.  Espiecally with the rise of "Blue Labour" who brilliantly think the reason they lost the elections is because they don't hate immigrants enough.

Ever look at Europeon Abortion laws?  When it comes to just ease of access and amount of time to get it done... the US is pretty hard to beat.  Heavy restrictions usually coming down in the 1st trimester in most cases... often with hoops to jump through.  US, you just make an apointment.

But the parameters seem to be economic so it's better to start there.

You can be socialist and conservative at the same time. There is nothing fundamentally incompatible with wanting the State to be in charge of almost everything (extreme socialsm) and making abortion illegal or tightly controlled. It all depends on whether the socialsm is religiously based or secular/atheistic. You can have free health care at the same time as makiing abortion illegal. What you're getting confused with is liberal socialsm (the secular kind) vs. conservative socialism (the religious kind). Socialism is a purely economic thing: state control of the economy, to a moderate to significant extent in theory for the benefit of all. In particular state control of essential infrastructure and services like power, water, healthcare, education, roading, rail, ports, airports, telecomunications, and other stuff leading all the way up to all industry, land ownership and agriculture, which is where you start knocking on the doors of communism.