the right to bear arms and how it can be used to defend from big government

[the2real4mafol]

SocialistSlayer said:

the2real4mafol said:

sc94597 said:

the2real4mafol said:
 Don't the seemingly limitless power of the FBI, CIA, NSA etc. bother you people? and yet that is never mentioned by libertarians ever

Are you serious? Check out ronpaulforums.com, mises,org, reason.com, etc, etc and all you see are countless articles on Edward Snowden, how federal law enforcement agencies are illegitimite, and how the CIA instigates wars. This is not only an issue libertarians address, but it's one of the biggest unifying issues of libertarians, from anarchists, to minarchists, to consitutionalists. It's riduclous to say that libertarians never mention these things, when we are the only ones who do. What happen to the progressives who were historically against such things? Oh they don't exist anymore. 

I'm not an expert on it but from outside the US we hear Americans moan about their guns being taken away but anything to do with the NSA etc. is not seemingly reported on unless it's RT or someone like that. I guess that is deliberate.

And yeah I did generalise abit but I've not had a reason to look into it deeply.

Refreshing to see such thoughts (i hate authoritarianism), although we could never agree on economic matters it's still cool. I would be libertarian if it weren't for all the flaws of capitalism

Maybe, in your country progressives defend it but I sure don't and i'm probably considered progressive by American standards. I admit not all progress is or can be good.   

Also, i find it abit depressing that the people who defend the ideals your country was founded on have to fight to protect it. 

at bolded,, thats false. you love it and actively support it on this site

The only authoritarian thing (if you could call it that) i would do is to nationalise key sectors of the economy (no more than what Britain did up until the 1970s).

But I don't agree with authoritarianism in general. All of the social aspects of life, I think government should stay out of. Stuff like education should have more freedom in it. The state should nothing to do with family or sexual desire or whatever.  Why couldn't freedom of choice go for alot of things? All the freedoms of things we are guarenteed in the west are truly wonderful things

A bit generalised but I said what I meant. While the economy should be mixed. Essential services nationalised competing with private equivalents, everything else remain completely private with minimal regulations.