| PDF said:
Zakaria is very well respected. I'll admit didn't like his book Wealth to Power very much but I still acknowledge that he is a renowned journalist and political scientist. |
F**k his respect. I remember stumbling upon his name and articles he wrote couple of times, don't have anything against the guy or any specific opinion about him. But what he said in the interview is a white noise, appeal to autority won't help his argument look better, and his argument is falling into the category of "Putin's plan" (and they call me consipracy nut). Not that Putin doesn't have some strategic thinking, that's a must for a politcian of his caliber. But American media is so overly obessed with the man giving him free advertising and trying to explain the whole situation with it.
I don't care what kind of tone he'd choose in regards to the situation in Ukraine, I don't have problems with that. I have problems with this college-level pseudo-intelectualism -- Putin's plan and all -- a pefect fit for CNN audiance, hence my post above, I quote:
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mai said: Nah, for western world Ukrainian crisis has started with Crimean crisis, and the whole understanding of the situation comes from alleged Russia vs. Ukraine "confrontation" -- before that crisis in Ukraine didn't exist, Nazi problem still doesn't exist -- media barely paid any attention to the country that majority of their audience would have had a hard time finding on the map. Hence relative popularity of the thread compared to similar one and the fact when given thread was created. After all whatever Putin does is much more entertaining than any other news -- cannot blame western media here. So from their standpoint, it's all about Putin. |
| PDF said:
I don't buy that there isn't influence from Russia in these take overs of governemtn buildings, any more than I believed Putin when he flatly denied Russian soldiers in Crimea. Just better at hiding them this time. |
Well you didn't seem to buy the fact that CIA was messing around with SBU, which is far-far-far more substantial, did I expose your bias too?
Understadning the influence from outside the border does add smth to the whole picture, but is not a decisive factor here. Maybe we should seek for that factor inside of Ukraine (striking thought, I know)? And I'm not talking about yet another tired topic of Russophones in Ukraine (half of Urkainian Nazis are Russophones). In order to understand the concepts we need to acknowledge simple facts, which is by itself a problem for some (even here I had two tiresome dialogues about Crimenian referendum), for starters we should define when Ukrainian crisis has actually started?
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But I already knew you would likely respond this way, your clearly bias and will distrust or mock any American media on the issue. As I am sure you feel the same way about me. We will only continue to talk past eachother. Lucky for us we are not the ones that have to find a solution. |
I'm substantially more informed than you are, I have a right to talk that way.
UPD: Visual representation of "Putin's plan fallacy", a TIME cover from month ago. They f**king worship him :D
