Is there a god?

[sieanr]

"Because the scientists cannot understand Nescience, they disregard it as true, and search for ways to purge it from common knowledge calling whatever they think up as truth and everything else childish fantasies. Eventually the lead the world to a souless state that cannot understand the very simplest of all remedial miracles, which is Faith. "

Minus the typo, thats not claiming science is going to lead the world to ruination?

Most people who have a poor grasp of science tend to conclude that theory=unproven/unsupported. Theory in the context of science is something that explains an occurence and is supported by evidence and experiment. You said gravity was a theory in a way that indicated it to be "untrue", or atleast not completly valid. This is a very common misunderstanding of science, usually by people who are ignorant with regards to science, which leads me to...

rickthestick2 said: And ignorance isn't the lack of knowledge in facts man, rather its the complete disregard for something for a dumb reason, or a dumb way of thinking about something for no reason.

Really? From the Oxford American Dictionary; Lack of knowledge or information, noun

But ignorance is not meant in a derogatory light, like where I used it above, just a lack of understanding.

rickthestick2 said: No, in fact i never mentioned it. But when someone (anyone) wrongfully attacks Science or Religion i'll speak up against it. So all in all, what's your point?

Thats my point. Since you never mentioned it, you are making the discussion one sided - you are weighting things in your favor. Take this line in tandem with you assumption that science will lead to meaningless, "soulless" lives and it seems as though you have it out for all men in white labcoats.

Either way, we do agree that people manipulate both science and religion for their own good. But science is about what is observable, imperical and provable. Changing science to include your nescience, as you suggest they are not mutally exclusive, would fundamentally change the core values of science. What I think you fail to realise is that science and religion somehow preclude one another from existing, yet they do not. They tackle different sujects, and thats where they should remain. Conflict only arises when one treads on the others foot. Religion has no place explaining the origins of man as that is in the realm of observable fact, but this issue is brought up time and time again. Science tries to explain the origins of man, but it has never wholly discounted the possibilty of a higher being. Virtually every scientist, even vehement evolutionist Rickard Dawkins, admit that there could be a higher power.

BTW: getting back to gravity - using telescopes, we can view stars trillons of lightyears away. Through some very accurate measurments, we can detect the effects of gravity on these far away galaxies and stars. Through all of this, there has not been one sigle deviation from our mathematical model of gravity. The fact that there could be evidence to the contrary does nothing to dispel the theory, since such thinking is logical fallacy.

I have faith, not hope, that this will help you better understand my point.