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Mr Khan said:
bonzobanana said:
The wii u needs some clever and well judged marketing and a large price drop.

It needs to appeal to the same people who bought the original wii. There is absolutely no point trying to compete with ps4 and xbox one head on. wii u versions of multi-format games are generally damaging to wii u unless its the type of game that has low cpu requirements so is competive with other consoles (2D platformers, race games etc).

I've got this horrible feeling just as Nintendo gets most things right with a mario kart bundle for christmas we are going to see a piss poor version of watchdogs released on it that actually damages wii u christmas sales.

I think unless wii u games occupy the space between 360/PS3 and PS4/xbone they do the wii u no favours.

How many faceoff's has wii u lost now to 360 and PS3? It seems like about 20 with only a few faceoff's being favourable to it.

I thought the problem with Watch Dogs on Wii U is that no-one will buy it. How could a version that no-one (certainly not people who don't already own Wii Us) will acknowledge or care about actually hurt sales?

That's the point though. The reason people won't buy these games on Nintendo consoles is because the underlying hardware is so weak.  Most of the wii u multiformat games I've bought has been from bargain bins at a much reduced price. I know there are people here who will support the wii u out of loyaty to the brand. I don't have that, the reason I will buy a wii u version of a game is because its a good version or is great value.

Who in their right mind would pay £40 for a chug a vision wii u frame rate version of watchdogs with reduced quality visuals when ps4, PC and xbone offer much superior versions for the same money. It's even likely the ps3 and 360 versions will be better going by the developers previous work.

The question can be asked how much research does the average consumer do before buying a console or what advice does a retail shop assistant give them.  Who are their other sources of information, friends, internet etc. 

I personally think a weak conversion of a already dated game that most have played on other formats is damaging. As was Mass Effect 3 at wii u launch when the trilogy was being released for other consoles.

On the original wii, did many care about Call of Duty on the console or did people know the console was too weak to play the game properly. I would suggest most people knew the hardware was too weak to run the game at the same level as 360 and PS3.

Clearly anyone interested in games is going to pick up some information about each console.

Looking at current wii u games sales its pretty clear many wii u owners are actively avoiding multiformat games on wii u. wii u exclusive titles get far higher sales. The one game that was actually superior on wii u, Rayman Legends actually had quite high sales figures I believe on wii u. Need for speed most wanted which had a more consistent frame rate on wii u and some improved textures actually performed very badly but as the wii u gamepad doesn't have analogue triggers it doesn't actually play that well on wii u and unlike Rayman Legends which was released at the same time Need for speed was released later when people had already played the game on other formats.

So in summary watchdogs on wii u will be late and inferior, 2 huge reasons why it will fail and do damage to the wii u brand. Lets not forget when you release a game late on a format it has to compete with versions for other consoles that may be heavily discounted with even cheaper pre-owned copies available.