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UltimateUnknown on 14 April 2014
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Mr Khan said:
UltimateUnknown said:
Mr Khan said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
Power alone isn't enough. The 64 and the Cube ignored key industry trends/expectations (e.g storage) and both Microsoft and Sony are active in garnering support. Nintendo could have a system on par with the PS5 next gen but if they maintain the same working attitudes it would fail.

The question is if third parties will ever bother to meet them halfway. We saw outreach before the Wii U came out, and then the system arrived and aside from the wave of launch games, support is worse than ever.

I think the main issue here is the fact that Nintendo don't seem to make any serious attempts to get 3rd party support. They just assume that 3rd party will just jump on board their console for miraculous reasons, even when they provide very little to no support to 3rd parties.

We see that both Sony and MS go out of their ways to help advertise and even fund many 3rd party titles in various ways. In fact we've come to the point where 3rd parties have a big say in shaping home consoles as well, as seen by the design and support for the PS4.

Nintendo on the other hand isn't even remotely close to building such relationships with a lot of 3rd parties.

It's a chicken-or-egg problem, though. Nintendo also funds third party titles which they feel are worth funding (three-game deal with Sega on Sonic, or their alleged Monster Hunter moneyhat), but how many third parties have even come to Nintendo with games that are worth funding? Hell, Ninty gave money for Ninja Gaiden 3 (not that i'm complaining, as i rather liked Razor's Edge), a game widely reviled. To get top-billing for the games that are "worth" it (like, say, Assassin's Creed), Nintendo would have to really ante up, beyond whatever Sony's offering, and Ubisoft would have to see the value in that.

That's the thing though. Nintendo only seem to be eager to support a handful of titles when the other manufacturers consistently try to create good relations with all major 3rd parties.

For a lot of 3rd party games, during advertisements you see at the end "Call of Duty on Xbox" or "Assassins Creed on PS". But I don't think I've ever seen a big profile 3rd party name like that attached to a Nintendo console. It makes sense then that 3rd party games don't sell on Nintendo hardware, because people (and I don't mean Nintendo fans) don't even know these titles can be bought on Wii U. I am imagining that Sony and Microsoft actively seek out any opportunities to advertise such large releases on their consoles. This feels like such a wasted opportunity since Nintendo could have the potential to market their console as one that plays both Call of Duty and Mario, two of the biggest franchises in existence, serving a very wide audience.

I remember Bathesda once saying that Sony and MS always keep the 3rd parties informed of their hardware manufacturing process, yet the same can not be said from Nintendo.