I just realised if 720p is so horrible, how did we survive

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ArnoldRimmer said:

Oh... I guess I really misread your OP then and need to apologize. I guess I prematurely considered this to be one of those countless "720p is enough, there's hardly any visual difference between 720p and 1080p" threads. Which I agree to, but consider the endless discussions about it to be pointless and annoying, because they're ignoring the actual problem.

I don't quite understand though why you claim both 720p and 1080p to be "crap", yet (as I remember) started this thread by pointing out how much worse it was just a few years or decades ago. If you consider 1080p to be "crap", you must consider N64, SNES or even NES graphics to be downright disgusting.

720P (HD) and 1080P (Full HD) *are* crap.
It's the kind of resolution you should expect out of a 5-10" mobile device or tablet, not a 60" panel, it's 2014, not sometime last century. :P

Once you go QHD (4x 720P) then you never look back, the PC has had those panels for YEARS.

Arkaign said:
If you have a garbage 1366x768 TV that they sell as 'HD', then it makes no difference whatsoever. And to be fair, there are a fair number of those out there sold over the past 6-7 years. They will be dying off and handed down constantly though. When you can get a decent LED 50" 1080p display for $499 at WalMart, it's hard to justify 720p existing.

DX12 is laughable as well, as the big gains are bringing draw calls to a lower level, skipping the CPU bottleneck that happens with the PC DX11 and older APIs. The problem is that the XB1 out of the box already had low-level draw calls enabled. DX12 will help PC, and help ports, but will not give the XB1 even a 5% GPU improvement in efficiency (and that's being exceptionally generous).

Here is the kicker.
Depending on Panel Size, Resolution and Viewing distance, there is actually NO discernable difference to the human eye after a certain point.

Thus by extension people who are playing an entire room away on a 27" 1080P panel would see zero difference between 720P and 1080P.


As for Direct X 12, you nor anyone else literally has no idea what is happening on that front as not enough information has been made available other than some high level and pretty sparse stuff, so don't pretend you know what is happening on that front just yet.