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BMaker11 said:

Point is, that's not the price everywhere. Only at those specific retailers. If $560 for the bundle was "outdated" and everywhere else is $450 (which isn't true), what difference, then, is it from a "complete nationwide price cut and bundle" if everywhere else is selling it at the price cutted mark? If $450 is the price that XBone has to be at (and if sold at a higher price (i.e. the official price) anywhere else is being "outdated"), then only 5 months from release with 2 games bundled....I'd say the "ammo" is justified.

Ok I remember you now. You were the poster saying MS at launch should have had up to the second information about sales in every store and adjust their shipments accordingly. So it seems you still don't know how retail works, but that's ok. It doesn't have to "be the price everywhere" for it to be an outdated, non-competitive price. Walmart is the biggest brick and mortar retailer, and AFAIK Amazon is the biggest online retailer. It's $450 for either bundle there. About the closest big retailer in competition with Fry's is Best Buy, and it is $450 there. It seems strange to have to explain something so simple and downright common sense but Xbone hate brings out some lulz in people.

Also, whether the "ammo" is justified or not is entirely off the point. It is about the shifting goal posts people have, and how people change their opinions or emphasis on things to suit their agenda. It's sad to see. Take you for example. In this thread you're making it out to seem like I should not imply the Xbox One has been cut in price and/or bundled at many retailers, and yet in this post you touch on how it HAS been bundled and the price cut at "pretty much every major retailer". It is extremely funny to see though, so thanks for the laugh. Nothing else for me to say on the matter.