Do you think that Socialism could ever get a strong foothold in the USA? (read op)

[SlayerRondo]

S.T.A.G.E. said:

SlayerRondo said:

S.T.A.G.E. said:

SlayerRondo said:

SocialistSlayer said:

SlayerRondo said:
The United States is already a heavily socialist country.

We can thank old lame legs himself FDR for racing us on down this path.

well really we can thank woodrow wilson, or even TR

I would agree with them also playing a big part in the trend towards socialism but in my opinion FDR had the greatest influence on the trend.

Woodrow Wilson is the major reason we're in the economical funk were in today with the bank heavily influencing our system or flat out just running it. FDR is the reason people would've had any rights to life in a world run by corporations.

You know corporations cant force people to work for them right?

FDR made it harder for corporations to take chances on low skilled employees as the offers for employment made by corporations to potential employees were restricted.

FDR created social safety nets for the common man. Without union rights and social security and medical care corporations would've had their way with us so easily. He stopped them from taking advantage of ANY employee low skilled or not. Every employee has a right to life but their choices make out whether they will rise or fall in capitalist society. He did not interfere with that. When corporations rise around the government the people need safety nets. He knew what was going on and was insistent on creating those policies for people. 

This is exactly why they are exploiting other nations and using NAFTA the way they are. Its pretty smart you see. If you cant exploit your own people...go to countries where they have little to no rights. Its going to get worse. Just be ready for it...thats all I have to say.

I am not saying its right, but people make certain decisions to counteract whats dissolving the structure of the nation we live in. If your job is to protect the people it has got to be done. Everyone wants to look out for themselves, but when there are entities out there who control the money by which we live and die by someone has to regulate the rules so you can have the right to work and based on skill and drive have the right to whatever heights you reach. I take no sides and truthfully If I naturally gravitate to liberatrian views, but the fact of the matter is in the state of the nation we have to adapt to what is affecting the nation at the same time.

The so called safety nets you speak of seem to have trapped at least a quarter of the population in poverty rellying of state sanctioned theft to provide their needs eroding their drive and skills over time. It was in the 1920's when the companies were actually forced to compete for and retain their employee's raising the standards of living greately until the great depression. Even looking at the minimum wage you can see that it was devestating to low skilled workers and was driven strongly by the white union movement to stop black workers from offering to work for less.

And this so called exploitation of workers in foreign nations is the largest driving force of economic growth. Just look to South Korea a nation that was stuck in the third world after the Korean war but was very accepting of sweatshops where the workers were able to gain valuable skills and the nation quickly attained first world standars of living.

And when have people not had the right to work? Skilled hardworking people who are capable of working in the right industry would have no problem finding a job or creating their own business if the goverment were to remove the regalatory burdens that they put in place inefficiently. The last sentance you had was complete nonsense and I don't know hos to respond to it.