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Sansui said:
rocketpig said:

Exactly. It's a difficult situation that will take men much smarter than me to sort out.

Ask yourself this:

Do you think Obama has the ability to sort out the Iraqi situation efficiently and intelligently? What international or military experience does he have?

Do you think McCain has the ability to sort it out? I do. I lost faith in Bush long ago but I think with the right approach, this disaster can be righted and we can get the hell out.

I also think Hillary might do a decent job of it, mainly because she's going to have Bill to rely on in international matters. I can't stand Hillary, but right now I think she's more equipped to handle America's problems than Obama is - though IMO, neither are as qualified as McCain.


I really don't have faith in John McCain's ability to sort anything out. Dick Cheney had a lot of experience going into the White House. Nixon had a lot of experience too.

It's not the experience that counts as much as the judgement. All these decisions are not made alone, and it's why a president has his cabinet and advisors. Obama has consistently shown that he is able to surround himself with bright, capable, and rational people, a failing that is painfully obvious in Bush's administration.

With regards to international experience, Obama has more than Bill Clinton did when he stepped into office.

"In the U.S. Senate Obama is unique among Senators in that he serves on three of the four Senate Committees dealing with foreign policy issues including the Foreign Relations; Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs; and Veterans' Affairs committees and is the Chair of the Foreign Relations Subcommittee on European Relations which is responsible fore U.S. relations with European countries, the European Union, and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (i.e., NATO)."

"Obama has also traveled extensively in his capacity as a member of the Foreign Relations Committee and has visited Russia, Ukraine, and Azerbaijan in Asia; Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, and the Palestinian Territories in the Middle East; and Chad, Djibouti, Ethiopia, Kenya, and South Africa in Africa. Obama has also co-sponsored the "Lugar-Obama Act" with Republican Senator Richard Lugar who was Chairman of the Committee on Foreign Relations at the time. This act was a bi-partisan effort to increase U.S. security in terms of the elimination of conventional weapons and weapons of mass destruction. This legislation came out of Obama's trip with Senator Richard Lugar to Russia, the Ukraine and Azerbaijan. "

He's only spent 2 years as a US Senator, but he's spent 10 years in public office. The thing I fear about McCain the most is that he has done nothing to inspire confidence that he won't attack Iran. We are going to have to accept the fact that Iran is going to end up having a large amount of influence in that region, given their geographic location and ethnic ties. That does not mean to have to stage another unwinnable war against them.

My first choice is Obama, and my second and most reluctant of choices would be McCain. I wasn't an Obama supporter until late January/mid february until I finally looked up all the candidates records in office, took a good look at their policies, their senior advisors, etc. And then of course hearing the man speak... to be inspired by a politician is something I've never felt before Obama. This is what scares people I think.... but if they would actually look up the man's record or read his books, I think they would understand.


 Two points based on the bolded statements.

1. Obama has failed in this respect. The best example is his Pastor J. Wright, whom he has been attending the church of for 20 years. This is a failing that cannot be overlooked. Obama lied to us when he said that he did not hear these statements. He said in his speech the other day (the big Race Speech) that he did hear these types of comments, maybe not those specifically, but similar none-the-less. Also in his speec, he did not distance himself from Mr. Wright but instead threw his own grandmother under the bus, by saying that she has harbored racist views and said things that "made him cringe." Yesterday he did it again by saying that her comments and views were "typical of white people." I thought he was above race and now he says that white people have been bred to have racist views? COME ON! No one should be able to trust his judgment after this.

If he surrounds himself with people like this for 20+ years I cannot trust his judgment. He also has ties and relationships with a known terrorist, the leader of the Weather Underground - William Ayers. He has met with him as a "Right of Passage" to Chicago politics. How can anyone be on friendly terms with someone who admits to bombing the Pentagon and says that he wishes he did more??? Also we have his connection and friendship with Rezko. He defends him even though Rezko has been indicted in a fraud scandal. Now we are supposed to trust his judgment of the people he surrounds himself with? Nope, it won't happen.

2. We don't have to accept that, as that would lead to further conflict between muslim factions. There would be a big push against sunni tribes, a small genocide, if you will. If we abandon Iraq now, Iran, who sponsors terrorism could make a claim to Iraqi oil and could punish the world for standing against them in anyway they see fit. We could see Iran getting a nuclear weapon within 2 years and dropping it on Israel. The Iranian President is very nearly daily spouting hate rhetoric against Israel. We cannot trust a man that is such a loose canon. We cannot trust them the same way we could not trust the USSR in the Cold War.

This is why Obama doesn't have the experience, judgment, or other qualifications to be President. Not that McCain is the ideal candidate but I would trust him more than Obama.