Mario Kart 8 grafix

[Hedra42]

biglittlesps said:

Hedra42 said:

biglittlesps said:

SubiyaCryolite said:

sethnintendo said:
This game will finally justify my launch Wii U purchase.

Same here. This + Smash + Bayo2 + X is all I need (of course I need moar but these games have 2014 covered on the U, PC for the rest). I consider the Wii U to be like a DreamCast and GameCube as far as exclusives game go, fairly niche but totally awesome. 10 years from now after all the dust has settled it will be remberred for that and being brave enought to try out asymetric + motion gaming, even if it wasnt a Wii like success.

I agree nintendo games are good for fun with friends, but every console should be rememebered for the new games and its innovations with new IP's/experiences, not just for the same old IP's with updgraded visuals/gameplay instead of introducing new games/experiences. But, for nintendo consoles its always same for each genration mario, donky kong, zelda and pokemon just with some upgrades to visuals and gameply instead of looking to create New IP's/experiences that can last for that generation.

While I agree its important to have new and innovative ideas (like Wii Fit and Wii Sports), the tried and tested formulae are still important. Mario, DK, Zelda and Pokemon always have and still do appeal to generation after generation of kids. The  fact that they might be the umpteenth iteration of the same  game with upgrades doesn't bother them. It's their first experience of those franchises, so they need to look new and fresh. Look at the history of LEGO. (and I don't mean the LEGO videogames) Need I say any more?

I'm talking about the first party innovations in game IP's and experiences in the software but not third party games and hardware related motion gameplays which is hated by the core gaming audience and its been unsuccessful so far for everyone. When we talk about Nintendo console then every generation only Mario, DK , Zelda and Pokemon sells better and i dont see any new IPs/experiences from nintendo which has been innovative and critcally acclaimed in each generation to remember and must have for that consoles. That is what for their consoles are being sold and nintendo made their fans to get used to. So, no other game from them or third party is not selling well in their consoles mostly and we have the proof for this from the Wii and Wii U.

You claimed that 'every console should be rememebered for the new games and its innovations with new IP's/experiences, not just for the same old IP's with updgraded visuals/gameplay instead of introducing new games/experiences.' You complained that for Nintendo consoles it's always 'the same for each generation' and that they should be 'looking to create New IP's/experiences that can last for that generation.' 

I argued the case for existing IP, and mentioned that there were new and innovative ideas like Wii Fit and Wii Sports. You then moved the goalposts by claiming that you're excluding hardware-related motion gameplays which you say are hated by core gaming audiences and have been unsuccessful for everyone.

This goalpost-moving basically invalidates your initial claim and your argument.

Like it or not, the Wii will be remembered for its motion control gameplay. In particular, it will be remembered for its sports and fitness related software. As for new IP developed specifically for the Wii, 22 million EACH for Wii Fit and Wii Fit Plus, (which between them, outsold Mario Kart Wii) can hardly be considered unsuccessful.

Like it or not, Nintendo do not follow the crowd. They get a lot of negativity on the internet for it, but they stick to their guns and continue to innovate. 

Back on topic, Mario Kart 8 is looking spectacular. I don't know much about all these gigaflip-flops and RAMs and such, but I do know a good looking game when I see one, and this is one of them.