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sc94597 on 09 April 2014
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Kasz216 said:
sc94597 said:
Kasz216 said:

Hm? I was speaking of Australia, which according to:

 http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/violent%20crime.html

  • The homicide rate was 1.9 per 100,000 in 1996 (which includes the 35 victims of the Port Arthur massacre) and was at its highest in 1999, at 2.0 per 100,000. In 2007, the rate was 1.3 per 100,000, the lowest recorded (since 1996).

It seems pretty constant to me. Or did you misquote? 


My point was that in this thread you've been conceding points that totally aren't even really true when you compare directly to the US.  US violent crime is down, and so are murders during the same time period.

Actually I provided a paper* (from mornelithe's link) which disputed that claim as well, but figured bringing it up again would distract from my initial main point and lead to a digression, that people will kill regardless of whether or not they have guns available. The reason why I said "alright" was because we were using the same statistics and in those statistics, it does mention a decrease in gun crime. I conceded to the observation (according to those statistics) but not that it is caused by gun control. Was there an example of any other concession? 

* http://www.ssaa.org.au/capital-news/2008/2008-09-04_melbourne-uni-paper-Aust-gun-buyback.pdf (found in this post.)