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Miguel_Zorro said:
pokoko said:
A gun law so powerful that it had a dramatic effect even a full year before it went into a effect?


Exactly.  This had nothing to do with a change in concealed carry laws.  I'm not strongly for or against gun control.  I *am* strongly for evidence based policy. There was a large decrease in the murder rate from 2012 to 2013, BEFORE the concealed carry law.  In fact, the crime rate has been dropping in Chicago since the early 90s.  It's been dropping across the United States since the early 90s.

Here's the murder rate in NYC, for comparison.  Gun control laws remain strict there.  

Here's a chart that shows the violent crime rate for the entire United States.  Same drop.


Not surprising. The fact that it was from the Washington Times should have been enough to set off anybody's bullcrap detector. They pretty much exist to to report nonsense that other far right organizations can then source. They are a cog in the conservative echo chamber.

Still, good to hear the murder rate has been dropping for awhile....hopefully it will continue to inspite of concealed carry..