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SvennoJ said:
Wright said:

SvennoJ said:

All finished now, still don't feel like ng+, since I already did a lot of zones at ng+ and beyond. I have Aldia's keep at lvl 5 already. Bonfire ascetics is a nice idea but kinda ruin the purpose of ng+.


You should, though. Even after using Bonfire Ascetics, they do not unlock "Real" NG+ feel.

 

If you don't understand, try going into NG+ and beat Lost Sinner. You'll be unpleasantly surprised.

Doing boss fights over is at the bottom of my list for doing ng+. Exploring areas I have missed is at the top, yet I already made sure I didn't miss anything. Next is 'finishing' my character, which I did with bonfire ascetics. I quit the game with 64 int, 55 faith and 60 attunement, north of level 200, 100 hours played. I got all I wanted out of the game without ng+. I did notice some different enemy placements with bonfire ascetics and some differences with boss fights during co-op in ng+ games.
In Dark souls 1 I quit halfway through ng++ when my character was finished.


I am quite the hoarder, so I try getting all items as well, aside of leveling my character and exploring every single area (I did not have that WOW moment like in Dark Souls 1 though, on which on NG I missed Ashen City or whatever it was called where the Dragon that allowed you to enter the covenant lies, and later discovered it by accident on NG+ and being amazed). For example, I think this does not work with the Bonfire Ascetics, but Heide knights now drop armor instead of weapons.

And Bosses also give you a second different soul, which can be made to craft new unique weapons.

 

I can understand, however, that after 100 hours one can be satisfied :)