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Justagamer on 06 April 2014
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Mr Khan said:
Justagamer said:
the2real4mafol said:
Mr Puggsly said:
the2real4mafol said:
Should of just funded the healthcare with taxes like the UK. You lot are only paying for a bloated army right now, a couple wars and some fascist mass spying organisations. Good priority of American government with so many in poverty!


American Poverty = Living in better conditions than most of the world with an opportunity to get out of poverty

Tell that to the poor in places like Detroit, Chicago or LA or any big city. If you're born poor you are likely to stay poor unless very lucky. Being poor is a bit of a disadvantage to doing well in the current system. And if American federal government ensured just two things, they would make things alot better for people. $15 minimum wage and a tax funded health service. Hell the money saved from eliminating the free market from core parts of healthcare would save alot of money for all.

Why else does the US spend 17% of GDP on health while European countries with a NHS style system or a mixed public/ private healthcare system spend around 8 to 10% of GDP. It certaintly adds up and its nice to known I can get treatment if I needed it without worrying about the cost.  


I find it funny when people think raising the minimum wage is the answer... What do you think happens when minimum wage goes up? The price of everything goes up too... So they'll make a little more, and spend a little more, but wind up in the same place: broke. I have a friend who manages a local Walgreens store... As soon as it was known that minimum wage was going up, prices went up on many products... One week later, he showed me a list of items, hundreds of them, that were already raised, or will soon be going up... Just by the news of minimum wage going up.... Getting a better job, not raising minimum wage, is the answer to making more money....

And how do we get these magical better jobs if there's no money in the economy because wealth is being hoarded at the top?

Redistribution is needed to kickstart real consumer demand and real growth, and one of the best ways to do that in a permanent way is to hike the minimum wage. Prices may go up, but not as much to justify the minimum wage change, especially they can't go up that quickly because it doesn't change demand for their products in the short run. Hence sticky prices, as a highly reactive price change is only going to hurt your bottom line as fewer people then buy your products.

Plus it's just a social thing. All taxpayers are subsidizing these low minimum-wage earners through social services (because they're TOO POOR), so you are paying for them one way or another. Better for the economy that they earn that money themselves, spend it themselves, and better contribute to wealth movement that way (especially if it means the dimunition of corporate profits, which just get hoarded nowadays)

I'm not here for an argument, but, how do you find these magical better jobs?..... Ok. It's through education. Minimum wage earners aren't educated. Tons of them haven't even finished highschool. Not all, but quite a few. There's ways to get this magical education, to find these mysterious, magical better jobs... Trade schools, traditional university, and there is funding for those that want to actually try. What if there isn't a good job in your area? Look and apply in surrounding cities, states. Most people who are "stuck" in dead end jobs, are stuck there by their own accord. Never be fox holed anywhere. Never be tied down to a city, just because you"grew up" there. Where there's a will, thee is a way. Minimum wage hikes are paid for through price increases. Not too hard to see that. Nothing is free.... You have to earn it, work hard for it... I work 60 hour weeks... I earn every penny of my pay.