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fatslob-:O said:
penguin10916 said:
fatslob-:O said:
penguin10916 said:
As a (fourth year... one more year left) senior in college, from watching the new waves of freshmen come in year after year, people have been getting systematically worse. Now don't get me wrong, my class was bad with well over half getting kicked out for some reason or another... but a least, in comparison to this years class, they didn't play off of eachothers' thoughts and screw each other over for the simple sake of entertainment... And eh, I'm a humanistic atheist... and religion won't solve this problem because religion teaches segregation by shunning those who do certain things and juvee won't solve this problem because, both in and out, they'll be treated as subhuman as our society has forgotten what a second chance is and how to forgive.

Heinuos acts like this should never be given a second chance. Punishment may not make things better but it will temporarily freeze the offender from doing any sort of harm or it can eliminate it entirely if the crime at hand calls for it. 


If you assume that there is no possibility for rehabiliation of the individual and that all understanding of  the circumstances of their mindset, at the time, are null and void, then everything from summary executions to Roman style gladatorial games are justifiable under your reasoning.

Over %50 of the crimes are caused by repeat offenders ... 


50% is still well above zero and yes, there are some who are never going to give up. However, if there are some who are willing to reform, they should be allowed to and they should be given a second chance. Furthermore, the venues of reformation should be based on the aspects that worked the most for them and it should be done in a way that addressed the core problems behind repeat offenders, which is most often poverty and psychological issues that go unaddressed because of limited access.