Captain_Tom said:
Norris2k said:
Captain_Tom said:
Norris2k said:
Captain_Tom said:
Rab said:
Captain_Tom said:
mutantsushi said:
Rab said:
hmm "Europe's borders cannot be redrawn by force", Kosovo supported by the US military breaks away from Serbia
I think Putin feels justified
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B-b-but... the US *SAID* Kosovo can't be taken for precedent!
But yeah, this is the US that says it isn't subject to laws against genocide,
and has a law authorizing them to invade the Netherlands if a US citizen is brought there to be tried by the ICJ.
Don't worry, the US has a legal theory explaining how exactly the Kiev coup met the legal requirements of 3/4 majority for impeachment of president and procedural requirements for consulation with supreme court. They really do. It's just classified.
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LOL some people just make me laugh so much. Yeah, the Kosovo situation is just like the Crimean one!
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Yeah, Russia hasn't bombed any cities
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Yeah the Ukrainians aren't commiting Genocide. Dear lord do you people live on the same planet as the rest of us?
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So, being genocided is a prerequisite before such action is taken ? Is it based on an international regulation or law ? "Sorry you are not dead enough, it would be illegal".
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Yes. Genocide is is a violation of international law, and outside nations have a right to intervention. This was a Resolution adopted by the UN general assembly on December 11th, 1946. That took me 5 min. of research to find.
Eddie may study international law, but it doesn't take college courses to know that Russia is in direct violation of it. It only takes 5 minutes of research.
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As far as I read it it doesn't give a direct right to make war, bomb a whole country, and make the area independant. It doesnt nullify others reasons to. And it talk about prevention... that's quite an open door when governement is part fascist and regional linguistic rights are removed.
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It did prevent the complete annihilation of a group of people. To be clear, you don't think it was ok for NATO to stop the Serbians from murdering hundreds of thousands of their people?
12,000 Albanian civilians were massacred and there was a mass rape of women in captured cities. This only stopped when NATO intervened. Are you honestly saying this was wrong?
Anyone who compares the situation in the Ukraine to the events of Kosovo is making a mockery of the thousands of graves filled with innocent people in that region.
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The problem is both the jump and the conclusion, when you go from stopping atrocity and the genocide of 12,000 people to "we can bomb anything in your whole country, reduce it to middle-age, to the point you accept your only option that is to accept total independance, and just by a referendum within this independant region with an hostile foreign ethnic majority you lose it forever".
So here in Ukraine, lots of minister claim there root to be in the Nazi party that is guilty of the extermination of 6 millions judes (and so many other people based on race), invasion of Russia, and the claim that slavian are sub-people.
That's different starting point, no one yet killed. 12,000 people murdered is horrible. Even 1 person. But in term of magnitude, 12,000 is far nearer to zero or to an accident than to a mass systematic genocide of millions that made the word genocide and any claim to be nazy horrible. So, you have a similar situation like "prevention of genocide" on going, and if you jump to the same unilateral conclusion, except for the bombing it's a pretty similar pattern.
