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mai said:
Kasz216 said: 

The whole natural gas thing would make sense for say... the Europeon Union, since by getting further US exports then things eventually stabalizing to normal it lowers their prices... but again....

 

there's just no benefit.

To just assume the US pulled something with no benefit and no proof is silly... espeically when there are other, closer actors on both sides with actual motives.

The situation is absolutely not in favor of the EU. Yes, they've played that game for you for some time, but the further we into that crisis the more inclined they will be to accept the position of Moscow. Why there's a huge lobby groups in the EU that are strictly following Washington scenario of events, undermining the EU, --  that question should have been asked by Europeans.

The thing is... if Yugoslavian scenario would have been a reality in Urkaine, i.e. peackeeping misson with zones of responsbility, say, Russian and American, the leverage of Obama would have been in saying "hey, we could diversificate gas exports" in the situation when "unknown terrorists" are blowing up gas pipelines in the Western Ukraine, that would have made these statements more belivable.

The idea here is not to replace Russia on the gast market of Europe, the idea is to keep that card and play it with other to undermine EU's energy security. Granted Ukraine might not be enough here, since even for Russian gas it's not the sole way of transportation in Europe, plus there're other suppliers, but a card that worth investing into. Because under no cirmustances American gas would be better for Europe than Russian, these are false promises in any situation.


Oh yeah, i forgot to reply to this.

 

I'm not sure how having an "allied" government in the Ukraine in anyway does this.

 

an allied Ukraine afterall would become part of the EU.  So how that  thretens the EU's Nat Gas supply I don't see....

 

nor how an "Allied' government would be willing to let their own pipeline be destroyed.

 

If anything, having a "Russian allied" government NOT part of the EU better serves the US purposes because if people get caught and evidene is left of US involvement, they cann blame russian fabrications at least.


If an EU member catches it.. there's nothing.