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the2real4mafol said:
Kasz216 said:

 

I've made my mind about it but whenever Obama or Kerry say anything to condemn Russia, I just can't take them seriously. Is that so hard to understand? I don't support Russia, I support the will of the people so unless there is any proof that the vote was fixed, I don't buy it. Will the west go nuts if say Scotland or Catalonia decides to leave their respective countries? I doubt it, if anything the west doesn't like Russia getting away with what we have done for centuries. It's like the cold war never ended. The current government in Kiev is hardly democratic so I don't know how we can complain if the vote happened to be fixed in Crimea. 

I get the feeling that democracy don't seem to matter to either side in this situation, anyways. But our governments are certainly hypocrites thats for sure 


Well... your just wrong.  If Scotland or Catalona vote to leave their countries... they just won't et them.


Espeically if they want to join another country.

You like in the UK, you really think they'd let scotland go?

 

The thing your missing about Crimea is that it's an issue of annexation.

 

There hasn't been a situation like it in a looooooong time.

Khan mentioned a few examples, but even then they aren't the same, as this wasn't an annexation of disputed territory, it was an annexation of undisputed written in black by everybody including the people doing the annexation.

 

The only way Obama would be hypociritcal would of been if he annexed Iraq and it was the 51st US state.

 

The annexation of Crimea is basically a return to WW1 era political reality.

 

Additionally, you know.  Tatars fear ethnic cleansing by the russians.   I can't believe somebody like you would support the annexation of a territory who's minority lives in fear of ethnic cleansing.