Obama: Ignoring Russian Aggression Would Have Global Consequences

[the2real4mafol]

Kasz216 said:

the2real4mafol said:
What Russia is doing isn't great but whatever America says can't be taken seriously with all the countries they have undermined and breached.

Why do we find it so outrageous for Russia to annex Crimea (with popular support actually) when America has somehow made it acceptable to undermine the sovereignty of many countries around the world? What about Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq as well as many other countries?

If what Russia is doing is so bad, set the example Obama! Respect other countries sovereignty and mind your own business

The fact that you still feel that way is really quite silly.

I noticed you more or less ignored my previous replies on why such thinking was faulty in the other thread.

 

 

Outside which... again, the vote was 97%.

That's a fairly obvious cooked vote if you've looked at any actual polling done in the last 10 years or so.

I mean, fuck keeping the status quo.  Almost 3% of Crimeans polled to get rid of the special autonomous status... and the Tatar autonomy group surely don't want to be part of crimea.

 

Those poll numbers could of changed radically with the changing of government to a more western friendly version as a lot of people who supporte dthe status quo could of been pro-russian people who wanted to play independence for favor  but....

it certaintly wasn't that much of a change.

I've made my mind about it but whenever Obama or Kerry say anything to condemn Russia, I just can't take them seriously. Is that so hard to understand? I don't support Russia, I support the will of the people so unless there is any proof that the vote was fixed, I don't buy it. Will the west go nuts if say Scotland or Catalonia decides to leave their respective countries? I doubt it, if anything the west doesn't like Russia getting away with what we have done for centuries. It's like the cold war never ended. The current government in Kiev is hardly democratic so I don't know how we can complain if the vote happened to be fixed in Crimea. 

I get the feeling that democracy don't seem to matter to either side in this situation, anyways. But our governments are certainly hypocrites thats for sure