Obama: Ignoring Russian Aggression Would Have Global Consequences

[Kasz216]

mai said:

Kasz216 said:

and as for US acting in it's own national interests.

can anyone actually articulate what the USA gets from manipulating the Ukraine?

I mean, if we're playing a finger pointing self interest game...

Russia has some pretty well defined interests in the Ukraine and Crimea.

 

The US... nothing really.

 

The only thing i've even really seen suggested is natural gas pipelines that go to europe.

I see you premise -- if there's no motive, there's no crime -- but that's just wrong. If you don't see a motive for a crime, there's only one conclusion you can draw from that -- you don't have full understadning of the situation. Your assumption that disrupting energy transportation to Europe might be the biggest part of the reason for interference seems believable to me. Hence why you see the topic of replacing gas exports from Russia with exports from the States being raised during speech in Brussels. If the events would have went a different route, Obama might have had more leverage to actually proof his words, while now it's jsut a chit-chat about nothing.

So if there's no motive and no proof... assume there is a crime and a secret motive.

That is a very russian perspective I guess.

 

The whole natural gas thing would make sense for say... the Europeon Union, since by getting further US exports then things eventually stabalizing to normal it lowers their prices... but again....

 

there's just no benefit.

To just assume the US pulled something with no benefit and no proof is silly... espeically when there are other, closer actors on both sides with actual motives.