ArnoldRimmer said:
Eh... Who the hell is Alex Jones?
Maybe not where you live, but in my country, a lot of people do consider it a big deal. Reading articles on the topic on websites of prominent national mass media was quite bizarre in that respect. While most media over here concentrated solely on the silly and irrelevant "Fuck the EU" phrase, it was extraordinary just how many reader comments below the articles found the 5 billion dollars and the fact that the US apparently tries to decice who should be ukrainian president much more disturbing. But that's a generally interesting phenomenon over here btw: There are extremely many people complaining about the current national mass media coverage of the crimea crisis. I've never seen anything like it, so many people feel that the national mass media currently do a very bad job at objectively informing about the topic. Many people currently actually feel better informed by "Russia Today", which is almost funny since most people are perfectly aware that it's pretty much "russian state television" and there is still significant russia-phobia in german society ("Der Russe steht vor der Tür!"). There are already petitions for a german language version of "Russia today"...
Even if that were true, there was also nothing in the Nuland conversation that suggests the US had nothing do with it either. There's also no proof that this phone conversation (like the other recent ones with Timoschenko etc.) etc. was wiretapped and leaked by some russian intelligence service. And yet, people over here are convinced that they are responsible, even though they will probably never openly admit to it.
What Klitschko emails are you referring to? I cannot remember having read about that, can you give me a link?
There is nothing in my posting that suggests I consider the worst of the US and that it's behind EVERYTHING.
Sorry, you lost me once again. Rothschild conspiracy? I have no clue what you're even talking about. I've heard about the illuminati of course, but from what I know they only existed about a decade, and that was centuries ago - so what exactly should they have to do with crimea? and why? Confusing your lines are, young padawan. |
As I said, while the "5 billion" and "no Klitschko please" comments are no of course no clear proof of anything, many people made up their own opinion about it. Especially since there are other articles etc. that fit well into the picture.
1) They are "Trying to pick the Ukrainian president" by asking people to not run. I'm not sure what's so scandalous about asking someone not to do something.
People are hyperinflating that into meaning.
2) And the US has invested over like 5 billion in the Ukraine... since 1991. Again, why people find this controversial, I can't quite understand.
That's a number Nuland uses publically in speeches. It's not some magical leak nobody was meant to hear, and that nobody knew existed... it wasn't reported as news in the US.... because it wasn't news.
The Nuland Leak happened in what February?
Here is a public speach in December... where she specifically mentions the 5 billion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y0y-JUsPTU#t=447
Again... it's totally conspiracy theory level bunk to take that as meaning something more then it was.
Alex Jones by the way is a extreme right wing conspiracy theory nut job... who basically can only find work on extreme right wing radio shows and coincidentally Russia Today.
Note the @delfi email address. lol. Like someone is going to use a home address to send super secret government emails.
4) The Rothchild's are accused by people like Alex Jones (Who works at russia today and deals with conspiracy theories like the ones your talking about) of creating central banks to basically control the world and every government
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4311
and you didn't really answer the question.
