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ArnoldRimmer said:
I actually don't even see what Putin is doing wrong at all. Crimea voted about becoming part of Russia again, and the vast majority of the population voted in favor. Which was to be expected, since Crimea had historically almost always belonged to russia, and it's population is vastly russian. It was Cruschtschow who made Crimea part of Ukraine, and even his own son believes that it was for purely economic reasons and only because Cruschtschow was convinced that Ukraine and Russia would always be united anyway.

On the other hand, I can understand that the US is a bit pissed right now. From what we know from the leaked Nuland conversations etc., the US had already spent 5 billion dollars trying to shape Ukraine the way they like, with the help of people like the extreme right Swoboda fascists. But now russia and the crimean population kind of crossed their plans. I guess this time, actual democracy was stronger than "endowment for democracy", if you know what I mean.


They said nothing of the sort.  Don't drift off into Alex Jones territory now.

The reason nobody made a big deal about the Nuland conversations except "Fuck the EU" is because that was the only actual thing in it that was anything news worthy.

The rest of what people try and take from it is just hyperbolic exagerrations of a normal conversation.

There is nothing in the Nuland converseation that suggests the US had anything do with anything that happened in the Ukraine.

 

and i'm guessing th Etc. is the faked Klitcshko emails.  Where a government employee emails Klitchsko with the eastern europeon equilvent of AOL.  As opposed to a government account, or even a CIA account.  Because clearly people conduct political intrigue over private email servers that can be monitored eaisly by the private companies at their own discretion... and leaving a trail for as long as they want to store the emails.


Your bias is making you miss some pretty obvious stuff... it's fun to think the worst of the US and that it's behind EVERYTHING, but really... seriously?

 

There is enough to complain about that to latch on to some silly stuff like your trying to draw connectiongs between the rothcilds and the illuminati controlling everything.

 

You don't believe that right?  The Rothchild consiracy theory stuff?  If so... I'm just not going to bother.