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sales2099 said:
fatslob-:O said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
Value wise it is a better value there is no denying that when you look at the deals. Of course it boils down to opinion and what someone wants. But as far as the value/cost goes if you were to put the PS4 next to this XB1 deal then it is better. No need to argue about it or bring up the past when the PS3 had the better value/cost because it was also true for the PS4 back then.

Just because this isn't making the XB1 SELL better than the PS4, it DOES NOT mean that it is an incorrect statement...geez some defensive folks around here lol....and this is coming from a Sony fan lol.

Nobody here is acting defensive from my side ... It's a known fact that value is determined by consumers. You really can't analyse by price but rather you have to do it by market demand. 

No you see that in itself is defensive. The Vita has alot going for it. Better hardware, PS Plus free games, and solid games library. I can say that the Vita is a better value then the 3ds. Doesn't change that the 3ds is kicking its ass. Consumers decide what wins, value is a completely different aspect. You assume consumers think rationally. Many tablets do what a Ipad can do for hundreds cheaper, yet Ipad beasts them all. Brand mindshare, bandwagon hopping, etc. is very much different from the value a product actually poses.

Just admit your playing the see-saw effect. I get it, its your turn to brag so don't pretend to have any "logic" behind your argument. Just say what we are all thinking: "PS4 is selling better and therefore your argument is invalid". It's ok, I was there and now its your turn. But dont pretend to add any substance to your response when there is none.

Can you seriously say that Vita has a solid game library when it's software sales are flopping around and about ? If a consumer has the power to decide what wins then why don't they have the power to determine what's more valuable according to the market ? Why aren't consumers rational ? All they want is a solution and it is a FACT that WII delivered a better value then either the PS360. Maybe it's because the ipad may be a better value ? Has it ever occurred to you that that their is more to value than the price of a product ? If no one sees a point to buy your cheaper solution then how can it be the better solution ? 

Hey, I ain't exactly in this console war LOL. Although it's extremely funny to see you get so hurt over a statement.