Games you get lost in...

[vivster]

TornadoCreator said:

vivster said:
Gothic(1-3) for me. The moment I start the game I'ms unk into the world which is to me the most realistic and immersive WRPG world ever created.

FF may not be as immersive but I'm always really attached to its world and characters.8, 9, 12 and the 13 saga as a whole are just wonderful. They all have at least one special place that gives me goosebumps whenever I'm there.

I honestly cannot stand Final Fantasy 13. The story has no direction, the plot holes are so massive you can drive a truck through them, the world is never explained and things are clearly done without rhyme or reason. My main problem is FF13 isn't a Final Fantasy game, it's a marketting franchise with characters like Lightning being used for marketting campaigns for fashion companies and consumer products. It's sad. They created characters first, then slopped on a story that didn't make sense... I mean no disrespect when I say this, but can you explain what it is you like about 13. I'm genuinely disgusted by it, it's my most hated game of all time simply because it took everything I love about Final Fantasy and disreguarded it. It's a 40 hour slog-fest before it even opens up, it's not linear in the slightest, it's a straight fucking line!!! The battle system is so passive the game feels like it's playing itself. The story doesn't make sense, at all, not even slightly, the characters are all whiney androgenous morons who just flit from one incident to the next with little direction, and the game clearly has no idea who the main character is as it focuses on uninteresting side characters more than the main story.

Like I say, I'm in no position to tell you what you should and shouldn't like, but this game doesn't have any redeaming qualities in my eyes so I'm genuinely interested in why you're so attached to it. Perhaps I'll at least be able to understand why there's such a fandom behind this game.

That sounds just like the generic stuff everyone seems to have to say about FF13.

Having experienced all 3 games I can say for sure that it is a genuine FF. The story stretches over 3 games so one shouldn't ahve an opinion about the whole when you only played one of them. It does come together at the end. Also giant plot holes are nothing new to FF. It seems people are measuring FF13 to a different standard, blinded by nostalgia.

As I said, what I am most interested in FF is the world. FF13 has an amazing world with lots of lore behind it and great set pieces. In that regard it's probably closest to FF12. The characters might be hit or miss for some people but they are not more or less shallow than any other FF characters. I didn't like Lighting until the very end of LR.

I can't tell you everything I love about FF13 as that would go to far in this thread but I can tell you this:

The world is as magic as any other FF.

The story is as contrived as any other FF

The characters are as steretypical as any other FF

The battle system is as shallow as any other FF

The game is as linear as any other FF(previous games only gave the illusion of freedom with the world opening up after tens of hours being normal to any FF)

People were going into this game expecting something unachievable and started nitpicking on every detail while ignoring any shortcomings of previous FF games with their rose tinted nostalgia goggles.

That said, FF13 Saga is in my Top 3 of FF games together with FF8 and FF9.