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Brutalyst said:
MoHasanie said:
I don't know about Obama care, but the NHS isn't very good, at least if you compare it to health care in Canada.


You say the NHS isnt very good and though I cant argue with that (due to finance cuts), have you ever been in a room with a Doctor and the Doctor said to you the chances of your Dad living are less than 30%? I hope you havent been, yet I have and he survived, not only that but a second time I was told something similar and had to go to the hospital in the middle of the night becuase my Dad might not survive the night,... no, not expected to live the night. yet he did, both times, and that is thanks to the NHS and the people who work there.

That's really most hospital systems though. Even in America before the ACA you were going to survive the night, just that if you were restored to health, you might not make it the next two years without declaring bankruptcy for what that night and any emergency treatments cost you.

(before 1986, interestingly, it was legal in America for hospitals to deny you care upfront based on your inability to pay. That it became illegal to do so is part of the biggest strain on hospitals: patients without health insurance who are thus forced to wait until a situation becomes an emergency, using the ER services and then being unable to pay afterwards, even with the wage garnishments and other procedures of bankruptcy, the hospital still doesn't get anywhere near their due, so the hospitals have to get that money from patients with insurance, leading to ludicrous fees. Part of what public payment would fix altogether).



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