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J_Allard said:
fps_d0minat0r said:

No hes saying different businesses go to different extents to make money.


I know that. And I am saying trying to rank them is an exercise in futility. Especially with a list as laughable as the one he gave. Again, whoever you put #1, just understand that if #2 and #3 could be as successful at it as #1, they'd do it in a heartbeat. The list:

Paying for online. Not only was MS not the first or only gaming company to do this, but Sony has followed suit. I don't even know if Nintendo has ever done this. SEGA charged as well.

DRM. Uh, Sony? Hello. Also, PSN Pass. Nintendo appears to get out clean again here. This of course is just console gaming. The PC side is ripe with DRM.

Making money on accessories. Like every single company ever. Such a stupid point.

Faulty hardware. I would put this into the bad business category, but idk if I would call it capitalizing on ignorant consumers. Also, again, Sony. And maybe Nintendo isn't as bad as we thought? Never had an issue with reliability from them.

Paying for exclusive content. This is totally not capitalizing on any gamer, but it is funny because he doesn't care when Sony does it.

The last two are not even worth pointing out why they are wrong. To summarize, companies enjoy making money. What some are saying is basically "yeah well ur company tries to make more money than mine!!1" LOL. Carry on though, I'm out.


... like I said.... different extents.

no-one is saying company a did activity x but company b didnt do it. Some do worse than others so and the criticism is shared on the same scale.

Sony also got criticised for the PSN pass, as did EA and every other company who had it. YLOD was also criticised, but RROD was criticised more because it was a worse situation.

Paying for exclusive content is the same... MS does it waaaay too often. Doing it once in a while to bring value to their customer base is fine, but Its almost as if they enjoy pissing off customers on their competitors system.

Anyway, contrary to the belief, a lot of sony exclusives are only because MS pushed away developers like Heavy rain was offered to MS/xbox, but they didnt agree with the child kidnapping in the story, and a lot of indie games exclusive to PS4 are because of MS's parity clause which means if a game launched on another console before XB one, they have to go through them on a case by case basis.... yet some people believe this has no impact on gamers.

When a company does something stupid, its easy saying 10 other companies do it too, but as a fan, there comes a point where you have to raise your voice for the benefit of the future of the products you like.

Sony had to go through a shitstorm with the PS3 to get the PS4 to be how it is, and I hope XB1 will be for MS what the PS3 was for Sony.... something they can learn from.