What does Putin want with Ukraine

[Norris2k]

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Norris2k said:

There is a misunderstanding. Let's say it differently. US is playing the chess board more than at cold war highest level and with a cold war mentality : them versus us.  "Them" is not that much about Russia anymore, it's about anything that could be, perhaps, in some way, against US domination. That's why they dare to ally and favor unstability in country near russian border, why they fight so many war, why they spy at such a massive level even allies. We went to the point that present seems like an absurd alternate reality where people get refuge in Russia to show east germany Stasi like american spying secret.

So they shoot some kicks to the minor player Russia became, and just go crazy on TV when Russia kick back at a moderate intensity that is in any way near the brutal US reached. So, please don't fell in that cheap propaganda and talk about "an agressive Russia trying to reclaim Soviet Union territory".

They are an agressor reclaiming Soviet Union territory. Thats an undisputed fact. They did it well, taking part of a country that clearly wants to be part of Russia.  I don't blame Putin for him capitalizing when he did but don't lie to yourself that its anything else.  Russians were not being attacked in Crimea, there was no reason for Russia to enter, other than a strategic national interests.  Putin even flat out lied about Russian troops being there.  Yet you are ready to believe what else he tells you.

The US will act to preserve its global hegemony and it will do so by attempting to prevent other regional global powers from rising.  This is a sad but true facts of all hegemonic powers throughout history.  The world forgets how agressive past hegemonic powers have been, and how the US pales in comparison.  

I know there is propaganda but its interesting how little the rest of the world truely understands US media.  There are whole news orginization dedicated to making democrats and repbulicans look bad.  It's not like we have state run tv like in Russia.  Where the goal is to prop up the governments agenda.  Imagine the most popular Russian news network to be anti-putin all the time and get away with it.  Thats what Fox News does here to Obama. 

I'm aware of Russia/Putine lies, and I would not personnaly like to join Russia at any point of Russian history. I'm just putting it in perspective of USA (worst) actions, and (that's what I deeply think) negative influence : precedent of Kosovo, overuse of veto, right to not follow international rules, right to overthrow any weak country and get away with it.

About soviet union, you could also says "region with an ethnic majority of russian", "region with national interests in danger", "region near the frontier with anti-democratic movements", "area of natural influence", and that's still a fact. Talking about soviet territory is a selected fact that is your choice , and it makes it sounds like an imminent danger of communist invasion.

As for past hegemonic power, it's hard to compare it with current world, where we have nukes and MAD, international laws, alliances, few to expect from territorial gains, and as far as we are both concerned something to eat today and tomorrow for most people.

As for USA news, I'm not an expert. In countries I lived in, there is a kind of political duopoly that switch once in a while. Both have affiliate news paper that will get angry about some insignicant details, mostly in the form of trashing the guy in charge. For example, if we take a real test case : does Fox News disagree on important matters such as Obama's position about Ukraine ? I just search a little, that's the first fox news page I found. So basically this news is saying the same as you, and the same as Obama, isn't it ?