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Norris2k on 17 March 2014
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OK, not in NATO, but on the verge of joining it.

The bold sentence is quite clear. It's covered if russia is involved. It's not if a bunch of fascists overcome a democratic governement near Europe, and want to remove russian as an official language in an area where people are mostly russians.

US was involved in Kosovo, Afghanistan, Irak, Libya, Yemen, Liberia, Pakistan, in about 15 years. They fought wars, killed, threw away governements, are still in place in lot of these countries, took good access to resources. For Irak it was based on facts proven to be lies and won by brutal force and occupation. In most cases there were no international or UN agreement. For Afghanistan it involved torture. I'm not telling everything is wrong or by pure interest. I'm telling that how can you come with "an agressive Russia trying to reclaim Soviet Union territory" ? This is such a cold war BS when Russia sent a little army force, fought no war and proved support by a referendum. Was it aggressive, really ? There is a giant chess game on going, and Russia is a very small, cautious and defensive player compared to US.

Your getting off subject.  You think the US went to war in Afghinstan, Iraq, and Libya because we have some beef with Russia??!?!?!?!??

I am not defenind my countries actions, as they have been wrong numerous times but you are fooling yourself if you think the US went to Iraq because we have a Cold War mindset.   Is Russia a geopolitical competitor of the US? YES but so is China.   Who by the way, the US is far more concerned with.    This does not mean there is a Cold War mindset.   Russia is far from the superpower threat they once were to the US.

International stage is a chess board but its no longer a game between Russia and the US.  You may see the world like but not here in the States. (except maybe for some left over Reaganites from that era).  Its only recently with Georgia, and Crimea have our attentioned turned to our old rival.

There is a misunderstanding. Let's say it differently. US is playing the chess board more than at cold war highest level and with a cold war mentality : them versus us.  "Them" is not that much about Russia anymore, it's about anything that could be, perhaps, in some way, against US domination. That's why they dare to ally and favor unstability in country near russian border, why they fight so many war, why they spy at such a massive level even allies. We went to the point that present seems like an absurd alternate reality where people get refuge in Russia to show east germany Stasi like american spying secret.

So US shoot some kicks to the minor player Russia became, and just go crazy on TV when Russia kick back at a moderate intensity that is in any way near the brutal level US reached. So, please don't fell in that cheap propaganda and talk about "an agressive Russia trying to reclaim Soviet Union territory".