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Soriku said:
lestatdark said:
JGarret said:
lestatdark said:

You mean the Manticores on Tower of Latria? Those guys were tough as nails, Dark's Gargoyles couldn't match up to them.

The Belfry Gargoyles on Dark Souls 2 are another matter entirely. You fight 6 of them, 3 at the same time for most of the fight.

3 at the same time?

 

Yup, and the area is slightly smaller than the top of the tower in Dark Souls too


The Maneaters in Demon's Souls weren't too bad IMO. IIRC if you stayed near the middle or behind in the dark or something, they'd just kinda circle around. You had to take that fight slow though.

I thought the Gargoyles in Dark Souls 2 were much harder since there are a lot of them. Also, I think you only have three on you if you stray too far from the start of the roof, because I remember going too far and then I saw the third Gargoyle wake up. I don't know if it stays that way the whole battle though, and plus you probably need the maneuvering room.

But yeah, tough fight. I tried summoning someone to help but then one of the Gargoyles used its lightning attack (which I hadn't seen before, so I didn't know about its range) which killed me. I left the area for a little bit, came back later with my weapon upgraded by an extra +1, and a little more Dex and Vig, and I managed to win.

areason said:

What do you mean by bonefire ascetics? Is it a specfic item or are you talking about a cattegory. I'm too lazy with bosses, i could have easily won one many tries espeically with co-op but i get hectic and do a mistake. Its really hard to balance the soreness from weight lifting, the stress from studying and the pain of dark souls. I need to play an easy game to feel good about myself. 

Bonfire Ascetics are an item you can use on a bonfire. They make the game harder (NG+ level, and then NG++ then NG+++, etc. by the number of them you use on a bonfire) but you get more souls and rare items drop more.

Also you really shouldn't be using 9 effigies on a single boss. That's too wasteful. You should've done co-op, or just came back later.

The maneaters take you by surprise because you weren't expecting to be another one joining the fray. It was the only boss to do it on the whole game, thus was a shock factor mostly. Once you had their patterns down, they were pretty easy, even without using the middle. I'd just run to one side of the area, lure a maneater, take him on and then take on the other. Worked well for all builds and all NGs.

Dark Souls II gargoyles is more of a tactical/guerrilla fight than anything else. You have to take your chances carefully, one mistake and they'll kill you while ganging up on you. I died twice, once because I didn't knew there was gonna be a third one joining the battle at the same time and the second time I was almost killing them and I got hit by that surprise Lightning attack as well.

@areason - Soriku explained it well, Bonfire ascetics makes your game harder but also increases drop chances and allows you to re-tackle bosses for more souls. 

And yeah, 9 effigies is too much. I wouldn't recommend co-op if you're having a bit of trouble on a certain boss though, because co-op also increases bosses HP and attack damage exponentially in accordance to how many phantoms you've summoned. I've had a harder time tackling the Smelter Demon boss in co-op than solo. 



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