The "I don't care about this game, so it doesn't matter" trick

[fishamaphone]

Tispower said:

fishamaphone said:

Tispower said:
However I'm glad you didn't put Mario on that list, because I seriosuly couldn't care less for Mario games and have never really enjoyed them, but I'm still partial to a couple of other's on those list, for instance I've always quite liked Halo, and may buy it for PC in the near future, and also have bought many a Pokemon game.

I just want to point out: this is *precisely* what the original poster was talking about. Regardless of how much you could care for Mario games, they're consistently top-sellers, and always push consoles.

VG Chartz data seems to disagree with that, the only time they've sold really well in recent years (GT3 level) has been on GB, and that was still a fair few years ago. Yes I know they were big on NES and SNES, but that was when Nintendo had little competition, compared to recent years.

VG Chartz actually backs me up.  Like I said in another thread somewhere, Mario 64 outsold both Gran Turismo, and GT2, despite PS1's larger userbase.  From this site:

Name	Console	Publisher	Japan	America	Others	Total
	Super Mario 64	Nintendo	1.92	6.87	3.10	11.89

	Gran Turismo	Sony	2.55	3.99	4.31	10.85
	Gran Turismo 2	Sony	1.71	3.96	3.70	9.37

Mario Sunshine sold almost 6 million units, which, although less than GT3, is still absolutely nothing to sneeze at.  6 million is system-selling, no matter how you cut it.  The original Halo only sold half a million more than that.  Are you telling me suddenly Halo shouldn't be on that list either?


I mean, unless you can show me some *other* Mario game that hasn't been selling.  Are you including franchise spin-offs?  'cause even then there isn't a single game in VG Chartz's database with "Mario" in the title that's sold less than 1 million copies.  The list:

	Super Mario Bros	Nintendo	6.81	29.52	3.91	40.24
	Super Mario World	Nintendo	3.55	12.97	4.09	20.61
	Super Mario Land	Nintendo	4.19	10.99	2.96	18.14
	Super Mario Bros 3	Nintendo	3.84	9.69	3.75	17.28
	Super Mario 64	Nintendo	1.92	6.87	3.10	11.89
	Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins	Nintendo	2.70	6.25	2.23	11.18
	Super Mario Allstars	Nintendo	2.12	6.08	2.35	10.55
	Mario Kart 64	Nintendo	2.24	5.52	2.11	9.87
	New Super Mario Bros	Nintendo	4.67	2.83	2.23	9.73
	Super Mario Kart	Nintendo	3.82	3.59	1.35	8.76
	Super Mario Bros 2 USA	Nintendo	0.70	5.47	1.29	7.46
	Mario Kart DS	Nintendo	2.38	2.49	2.05	6.92
	Mario Kart: Double Dash	Nintendo	0.89	3.85	1.86	6.60
	Super Mario Sunshine	Nintendo	0.87	3.73	1.31	5.91
	Mario Kart: Super Circuit	Nintendo	1.00	2.66	1.79	5.45
	Dr Mario	Nintendo	2.08	2.21	1.05	5.34
	Super Mario Advance	Nintendo	0.92	3.10	1.30	5.32
	Super Mario Advance 2	Nintendo	0.96	3.16	1.16	5.28
	Super Mario Land 3: Wario Land	Nintendo	1.59	2.53	1.07	5.19
	Super Mario Bros DX	Nintendo	0.20	3.45	1.42	5.07
	Super Mario Advance 4	Nintendo	0.84	2.88	1.31	5.03
	Dr Mario	Nintendo	1.53	2.66	0.66	4.85
	Super Mario 64 DS	Nintendo	1.14	2.16	1.41	4.71
	Super Mario Advance 3	Nintendo	0.63	1.72	0.47	2.82
	Mario Party	Nintendo	0.88	1.24	0.58	2.70
	Super Mario Bros 2	Nintendo	2.65	0.00	0.00	2.65
	Mario Party 2	Nintendo	1.08	1.27	0.15	2.50
	Mario Party 4	Nintendo	0.92	1.13	0.39	2.44
	Mario Tennis 64	Nintendo	1.10	0.77	0.45	2.32
	Mario Paint	Nintendo	0.27	1.45	0.59	2.31
	Mario Bros	Nintendo	1.63	0.52	0.13	2.28
	Famicom Mini: Super Mario Bros	Nintendo	1.38	0.63	0.23	2.24
	Super Mario RPG	Nintendo	1.47	0.67	0.00	2.14
	Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga	Nintendo	0.47	1.46	0.19	2.12
	Mario Party 5	Nintendo	0.73	0.96	0.36	2.05
	Paper Mario 2	Nintendo	0.46	1.23	0.26	1.95
	Mario Party 3	Nintendo	1.02	0.72	0.17	1.91
	Mario Party 6	Nintendo	0.60	0.85	0.11	1.56
	Mario Golf 64	Nintendo	0.65	0.62	0.20	1.47
	Mario Party 7	Nintendo	0.47	0.87	0.11	1.45
	Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time	Nintendo	0.48	0.70	0.27	1.45
	Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour	Nintendo	0.25	1.03	0.15	1.43
	Famicom Mini 01 Super Mario Bros	Nintendo	1.39	0.00	0.00	1.39
	Paper Mario	Nintendo	0.60	0.58	0.20	1.38
	Mario Hoops 3 on 3	Nintendo	0.51	0.64	0.16	1.31
	Mario Tennis GB	Nintendo	0.47	0.51	0.20	1.18
	Mario Power Tennis	Nintendo	0.46	0.52	0.15	1.13
	Super Mario Strikers	Nintendo	0.21	0.43	0.42	1.06
	Mario vs Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis	Nintendo	0.27	0.61	0.18	1.06
	Super Paper Mario	Nintendo	0.48	0.53	0.00	1.01

Like I said, you're just proving the original poster's point.  You "don't like" Mario, so you assume the games don't do well, when in fact, the "Mario" tag pretty much assures a game platinum sales, even at the end of a console's life, and even if the game was only released in 2 teritorries.