| Mnementh said: Bolded: he didn't say that. Underlines: see underlined in Sharus post. Italic: I don't know what currently to make from the news. But I know here are no 'good' sides. Russia, EU and the USA have all their interest. And in the Ukraine the interest of EU and US don't align. Not one of these three powers are interested in the people of the ukraine, human rights or international law. They all proved that in the past. Our former german chancellor Schröder has surprisingly supported Putin - with the claim that the invasion in Jugoslawia he did was also against international law. Also the powers in the ukraine aren't acting in the interest of the people: Timoschenkos tries to get back the power she lost in democratic elections. The Nazis (Swoboda and the right sector) try to get power through force - at least to let other parties make decisions in their direction. The crimean government also tries to gain more power and hoping to get it through russia. The pro-russian groups also want more local power and use the currentsituation. The oligarchs have arranged with kiew-government, to gain more money from the already nearly bankrupt country. Yanukovich tries to get back into power to get his share of riches - so does Timoschenko. Is there one single group involved in this conflict that acts in the interest of the ukrainian people? I can't see them. And you say we all are easily manipulated - while you are believing the propaganda of one side without any hesitation. |
You keep talking about precedent and proved before. I know everyone has their interests, but you cant use past examples against the current leaders. Leaders in democratic countries change. The people in power now are not the people in power a long time ago. Even in the case of the US, its not Bush anymore, its Obama. How can you claim to know the values of people that werent there before? Your generalisation is way too convenient.
I am convinced that are leaders in europe that are honestly concerned about the humanitarian situation in Ukraine. Of course, their duty is for the people of their country though. It doesnt mean they are these inhumane people you paint them out to be. None of these people will be in power in 10 years, they dont have any nefarious agenda. Thats not something that can be said about the current leader of russia.







