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lucidium said:
ninetailschris said:
lucidium said:

Thanks for proving a point.

In you post you said "all" stop selling nintendo games.

Do need me to list your revisionist history?

I could name a wholesale of nintendo games that sold over 5-20 million that never had a bundle or very limited bundles. 

If your going to say something in defense of argument at least be accurate and be willing to admit your wrong.

You seem to be struggling with english, let me help you.

ALL, the TOP selling.

Let's look at the top 10 selling games of all time.

1 Wii Sports Wii 2006 Sports Nintendo 41.04 28.68 3.77 8.39 81.87
2 Super Mario Bros. NES 1985 Platform Nintendo 29.08 3.58 6.81 0.77 40.24
3 Mario Kart Wii Wii 2008 Racing Nintendo 15.08 12.37 3.72 3.19 34.37
4 Wii Sports Resort Wii 2009 Sports Nintendo 15.39 10.72 3.25 2.90 32.26
5 Pokémon Red / Green / Blue Version GB 1996 Role-Playing Nintendo 11.27 8.89 10.22 1.00 31.37
6 Tetris GB 1989 Puzzle Nintendo 23.20 2.26 4.22 0.58 30.26
7 New Super Mario Bros. DS 2006 Platform Nintendo 11.11 8.94 6.49 2.85 29.39
8 Wii Play Wii 2006 Misc Nintendo 13.89 9.14 2.93 2.83 28.79
9 Duck Hunt NES 1984 Shooter Nintendo 26.93 0.63 0.28 0.47 28.31
10 New Super Mario Bros. Wii Wii 2009 Platform Nintendo 13.87 6.58 4.69 2.15 27.28

Of these 10,

1) Heavily bundled in US/EU
2) Heavily bundled in US
3) Heavily bundled in US/EU
4) Heavily bundled in US/EU
5) Heavily bundled in US/EU/JP with colour matched hardware
6) Heavily bundled in US
7) Heavily bundled in US, bundled extensively in EU/JP
8) Heavily bundled in US/EU (Came with additional controller for very little over retail price of second controller)
9) Heavily bundled in US
10) Heavily bundled in US

Ya done?

ninetailschris said:

(remember when ps4 going to sell at least 400,000 more than 3ds launch sales because there is a sign that says  western sales are great! Never heard you admit your wrong there.)

I stated very clearly I expecting 400,000-650,00, this prediction was for the first week, we have only got the numbers thus far for the first 2 days, which is very close to that low end estimate, I never said it would be "400,00 MORE than 3ds" now you're just straight up lying, see my post for yourself.

lucidium said:

My prediction still stands at 400-650k ish.

And prior to that I had posted my initial "lowest limit" prediction for the week, which you can see here.

lucidium said:
The amount the ps4 is being pushed in electronics stores here in japan I will be genuinely shocked if it doesn't break 250k on launch week in japan alone

So yeah, stop talking bullshit sir.

If the first week numbers come in below the 400,000 - 650,000 estimate i made, you'll get your apology, if it comes smack bang in the middle, then I was right on the money, and you don't get jack.

I'm going to expose your revisionist history.

1.Wii Sports I will give you.

2.Will give you.

3. Now this one is crap. We on vgchartz know mario kart wii was at 28 million before it got bundled. That is 2 times sony highest seller that was bundled way before mario kart with another game. If we were to cut off the 4 million it still would be an amazing sales way beyond anything on sony and not highly based on bundles. If your going to make up some bad logic that because at any point it was bundled therefor nothing count than your arguing from irrationally to just prove your point. The fact is 28 million is much larger than 4 million and proves that the game sold it itself.

4. Wii Resort was bundled with a wii remote plus. That isn't the same as bundling with system. You could buy wii remote plus for cheaper price than the game. What's next donkey kong 64 sales don't count because it came with ram? I don't think you understand 'bundled' means.

5. Red and blue was not heavly bundled from my experience. Do you have any proof of this? I know it sold millions with bundles just based on reports from nintendo.

6.Have no clue. But do you have proof besides just asserting it.

7. Same reasoning as mario kart but this one was actually a limited bundled that only lasted some months.Higher than all of sony exclusives.

8. Same as Wii Resort.

9. This is true.

10.Same as mario kart. Only difference was it was at 22 million before being bundled.

 

Now some more that were never bundled or only had limited bundles.

Mario Party 8 2007 Misc Nintendo 3.70 2.07 1.58 0.69

8.05

Donkey Kong Country Returns 2010 Platform Nintendo 3.03 1.62 1.03 0.43 6.11

 

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 2006 Action Nintendo 3.66 2.01 0.60 0.67 6.93

 

Super Smash Bros. Brawl 2008 Fighting Nintendo 6.21 2.35 2.57 0.94 12.07

 

We know for a fact that these were not bundled.

So, again it proves you had did no factual research on your claims and only said it because of your own personally bias. You did not care to take the reality of what is really going on.

"I stated very clearly I expecting 400,000-650,00, this prediction was for the first week, we have only got the numbers thus far for the first 2 days, which is very close to that low end estimate, I never said it would be "400,00 MORE than 3ds" now you're just straight up lying, see my post for yourself."

That was typo.What i mean to say was WHICH is more than the 3ds like I said in my original post, calling you out for saying ps4 would out sale the 3ds at launch because of signs saying ps4 is selling out worldwide. My point was you were way off on your prediction in which you placed the ps4 higher than 3ds and you were factually shown you have no clue how the market works. My prediction was it would debut at around 300,000 which is below the launch of 3ds which was at 376,000. On media create it debut at 309,000 which makes you off by almost 100,000. How were you close? When it comes to the argument I made before in that thread 100,000 off  is a big factor showing you were way off and misjudged the market. Remember you telling me that it was going to outsell the launch of 3ds because of all that advertising? 



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