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Nem said:

 

NeoRatt said:
Nem said:
NeoRatt said:
Russia is simply looking to secure access to the only warm water naval base they have to access western Europe, the Mediterranean, and Red Sea.

If the new Ukraine government was smart they would offer Russia a lease extension from 2047 to 2147 to keep the naval base there and guarantee Russian culture (language and other cultural norms) is supported by the government in exchange for a permanent withdrawl of occupying troops from the peninsula.

Right now the west seems to think that Russia has to lose. They have to look for a way for Russia to claim a victory.


I dont know if you understand this, but Russia has no claim to it. If they want it, there is only two possible ways the international community will accept it.

1. Ukraine sells it to them for a price.

2. Democratic referendum.

 

I worry that this will escalate into something worse. It might be inevitable that democracy and comunism clash in war until one goes. China is beeing very clever staying out of this. I would rather comunism issues be solved with internal disputes. Thats not gonna happen until the oil/gas runs out though.

Zimmerman's handywork troubling us to this day. What a devious character.

USA had no reason to enter Iraq.  But, they did because of oil...

Western nations had no reason to enter Libya...  But they did because of oil...

Western nations have watched and for the most part ignored stuff in Cambodia, Congo, Somalia, Central Republic of Africa, etc...  Where no one cares if the people die or are repressed.

Russia has just as much rights to look after their interests as western nations think they do.


Two wrongs dont make a right. You make it sound like those countries were annexed by any of the intervening nations. Very different.. 

Two wrongs, lot of wrongs make a precedent. And legally speaking, a precedent  is very similar to a law or right.

For good or not, what USA did in Irak is : make war to Irak, search dead or alive all the government, make stay its army for years, fought years of guerilla and financed and influenced the new government. So how does Russia sending a few thousand military guys for just a week, without kills or resistance in an area where lot of people are russians could possibly qualify more than that as an annexion ?