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Mnementh said:
Nem said:
NeoRatt said:
Russia is simply looking to secure access to the only warm water naval base they have to access western Europe, the Mediterranean, and Red Sea.

If the new Ukraine government was smart they would offer Russia a lease extension from 2047 to 2147 to keep the naval base there and guarantee Russian culture (language and other cultural norms) is supported by the government in exchange for a permanent withdrawl of occupying troops from the peninsula.

Right now the west seems to think that Russia has to lose. They have to look for a way for Russia to claim a victory.


I dont know if you understand this, but Russia has no claim to it. If they want it, there is only two possible ways the international community will accept it.

1. Ukraine sells it to them for a price.

2. Democratic referendum.

 

I worry that this will escalate into something worse. It might be inevitable that democracy and comunism clash in war until one goes. China is beeing very clever staying out of this. I would rather comunism issues be solved with internal disputes. Thats not gonna happen until the oil/gas runs out though.

Zimmerman's handywork troubling us to this day. What a devious character.

A democratic referendum about the status of crimea was from the beginning the plan of the pro-russian government of crimea. The referendum is underway, it will already happen in March.

I don't know why you bring up communism, all countries involved are capitalist countries. I don't think there are any communist states left in the world, maybe cuba, but I'm not sure.

Theres amix of communism with capitalism in Russia, China and north korea. All of them still have dictatorships in their own way. If Russia  was a proper democracy, this wouldnt be as much of a problem, as we would know that theres no way Putin wouldnt have dreams of grandeur for sure.

 Theres a problem with referendum option. Who is gonna organise it? Russia certainly doesnt have the credability for it. They will cheat for sure. So, ukranian authorities have to do it. Will Russia retreat to let that happen? Somehow i doubt it.